richardhutnik said:
thranx said:
richardhutnik said:
thranx said:
the2real4mafol said: How long before it's better to live in Mexico i wonder? But the Republicans brought about this mess by overspending on two wasteful wars and reducing taxes for all, when the country obviously couldn't cope with it. Never trust a conservative. Now let again, they want to put in harsh austerity measures, they are idiots! Just look at Europe and you can see austerity hasn't worked, politicians can sort out the economy but they selfishly favour the few bankers out there over the poor majority. We just all do what Iceland did in 2009, let the banks fail and arrest the bastards. They are growing at 3% per year now, while the rest of us are flat lined. |
as little faith I have in the US governement I dont think we will evr be as abd as mxico. I am suprised the world doesnt care more about the mexican people. the cartels and the corrupt government and areas with no to little government are crazy.
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So, what exactly is this "government" think you talk about above, that when missing, results in things going real bad. What exactly is it supposed to do, when you have members of society who overrun others, and subject them to torment and violence, in the name of money? Is this government thing you speak of suddenly supposed to make the people feel safe and make things work? I have to ask that, because usually in these political threads government is a evil bully that supposedly exists to make every one suffer, so the less of it, the better.
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the government exist to pretect the people from each other and from outside threats. beyond that there isnt much need for a government. In mexico its government is not protecting its people from each other. It is failing. In the united states the government is over regulating and trying to run the lives of its citizens(through taxing bad habits (as they see fit) promoting what they think is good for the enviroment, and the people and lineing their pockets). Its has crossed the boundry of protecting its citizens from others into trying to protect its citizens from themselves. I am for a government that fulfills its responisbilty in protecting its citizens, not in trying to dictate the course that they run their lives in or what they belive in. Very big differnece. I think that the majority of gevernment money should be spent on defence and police, and none of it spent on social welfare. I am not an anarchist.
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So, you don't believe in collective wisdom that sees that certain regulations and preventive measures that can prevent much larger costs, by stopping things before they start. So, in regards to protecting citizens from themselves, is that not what law enforcement is about?
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Law enforcement is there to protect you from your neighbors and others with in your country. Not sure what regulations you mean, there are so many. Some regulation is ok, minimal regulation. Most of what we have now is not. A lot of it removes personal responsibilty, and leads to people having no need to think or plan for themselves. I dont think that is good, and will in the long run be bad for people. It is already showing in the US population. With most people not caring about their health because it doesnt cost them money, someone else will foot the bill. Personal responsibility is a good thing, choosing to help others is a good thing, having these things forced upon you removes their value.