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Netyaroze on 23 March 2013
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Max King of the Wild said:
Netyaroze said:
wfz said:
Making rich people pay more for things doesn't make any sense to me. What is this leading to, making them pay more for gas? More for food? More for insaurance? More for rent?

Yeah, let's just charge everyone a flat % of their income so everyone essentially makes the same amount of money at the end of the day.


It makes alittle bit of sense in theory. I know many people who don't care about fines at all and put their cars everywhere. Because the amount they have to pay is way to small to affect them negativly. There is however the point system which takes away your license and people do fear that so its infact questionable if higher fines for rich people makes sense. I agree its not effective. It is more of a cosmetic effect.

@Max if you have depts or responsibilities they won't treat you like a rich person all dues are accounted for and influence the fine.

 

 

 


LOL!!!! Youre joking right? The reason I got married was because my wifes dad makes 130k a year (before taxes) with 6 dependants and Fafsa said her EFC was 30k a year. LOL!!!! and who would determine the fine? THE COURTS! They wont take everything into consideration. They wont nearly have the man hours to sort through that crap. Look at the fucking social services. LOL LOL LOL!

Dude calm down, I was refering to how its handled in Germany where appearently the documentary referenced in the OP took place.

  If you get 200k a year but have 3 kids and insane dues than you won't be fined as someone who gets the same without any responsibilities. You can earn 200k in Germany and still be judged as a poor person. They factor in everything since the fines are measured on how much money actually arrives in your hands after everything else was subtracted. And how it gets done. Well we have one of the most complicated tax systems worldwide and judges know instantly how much money you actually really have. They don't even need to do much it gets done automatically.

Also if you think they calculated something wrong you can appeal and they will check your case. But that doesn't happen often if you have dues the state doesn't know about they will tax you more.  But the fine can get lower if you have a case. Like you lose a Million are suddenly poor and get fined based on last years data.

 

If its not feasable in the USA then ofcourse it makes no sense to do it there.

 

Edit: I just looked up the philosophy behind the fines. They ask for money not to stop you from doing it, thats what points are for but the money fine is supposed to punish people immediatly points are to abstract for that. So it does make sense to ask more of someone with more money or else the punishment wouldn't be the same since 100 bucks are subjectivly speaking not the same for a Millionaire as 100 bucks for a poor person.