Republicans holding us hostage yet again.

[tres]

timmah said:

tres said:
my whole problem with the the right is its all motivated in selfishness. some christians they are. when you are concerned about "we the people" including as the bible say "the least" then you can come to a rationale conclusion. if not then you are just a sheeple shilling for the plutocrats and oligarchs.

You're just spouting off some talking point you heard rather than actually doing research and learning for yourself. 'The right' as you call them generally believes in making the efforts to help their fellow man through their own choice, rather than forcing other people to do it instead... and they put their money where their mouth is. Additionally, nobody wants to just cut the poor off and let them fend for themselves, most conservatives are advocating for restructuring programs to be more effective, thereby not wasting so much money (how many people could be helped with money wasted in bureaucracy). Many are also strongly in favor of job/skill training to be a required part of assistance programs.

@BOLD: That must be why those who identify themselves as conservatives give far more to charity than those who identify as liberals, in spite of making less money?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=2682730&page=1#.UUxXFKjD8dU

Arthur Brooks, the author of "Who Really Cares," says that "when you look at the data, it turns out the conservatives give about 30 percent more." He adds, "And incidentally, conservative-headed families make slightly less money."

And he says the differences in giving goes beyond money, pointing out that conservatives are 18 percent more likely to donate blood. He says this difference is not about politics, but about the different way conservatives and liberals view government.

"You find that people who believe it's the government's job to make incomes more equal, are far less likely to give their money away," Brooks says. In fact, people who disagree with the statement, "The government has a basic responsibility to take care of the people who can't take care of themselves," are 27 percent more likely to give to charity.

what talking point do you see in my post?  had to be the laugh of the day.

you're just reading off talking points if anything..  and cough cough b.s. if you think those pseudo conservatives in watching want effectiveness.  they want total privitization or elimination and thats a fact.  look at what they did to the post office.  they created laws forcing them to pay while restricting them from ways to become profitable despite of the ignorance of conservative legislatures. theyve said the same about social security which adds zero to the deficit since its paid for by workers you know working.  a healthy economy = healthy social security.  since republicans in congress are nothing more than i'll just say haters so i dont get banned again lol, that "liberal" president introduce the payroll taxcut.  a republican idea of course that actually decrease the funds that would go into the ss fund.

@ bold lol.... charities are nothing more than tax shelters.  i've never written off anything i've given to my church or charity until they do that then it's irrelevant.  the right like to spout off the my and i while bathing in the constitution of "we the people"

i bet i can grow the economy faster than any pseudo liberal or conartist i mean conservative