This is the Real China.

[dahuman]

kain_kusanagi said:

dahuman said:

kain_kusanagi said:

freedomland said:
Who is behind this false propaganda? Tragedy can come across anybody anywhere.
And why is he writing on the paper like some advertisement, he would've talked, it could've been more convincing.
I lived there for 3 years, I find Chinese people really peaceful and loving.

The attack could have happened anywhere, but what happend after that doesn't. What makes his story so bad is that he was convicted for self defense and then thrown in a hell hole of a prison for 4 years. He isn't criticizing the Chinese people. He is criticizing the Chinese legal system and government as well as the lack of support from his own government.

 

In the ancient old days, if you stole from somebody, your hands were chopped off then they tossed you in the streets. In a country full of Chinese people where a white person killed a Chinese person? He's lucky he only got 4-5 years, because it could have been worse, like death by rocks and boulders or straight up execution without blind folds. I'd say China has become much more civil these days compared to way way back. Who the hell does he think he is that a country as powerless on military as Canada would help him get out? Every life has a price, and when you are in China, life is dirt cheap unless you are the Canadian Prime Minister.

Everything you said is true, but that doesn't excuse China's treatment of a man forced to defend himself. If he was a Canadian visiting New York City and a gang jumped him and his friend and he unfortunately killed one of his attackers while defending himself he may not have even been arrested. Even if he was arrested after the evidence and witness accounts came to light he would have been released and there would have been no trial. The attackers would have been arrested and criminally charged for assault, but not a man defending himself.

That's the point of this video. Anyone who thinks China has moved past it's human rights problems is kidding themselves. China has a lot of money and power, but it couldn't be more different from nations like Canada or the USA where you have certain unalienable rights. Even if he was wrongly convicted in the USA the prison system conditions he described can't be found anywhere north of the Mexican border and I doubt even Mexican prisons are as bad as he describes his Chinese imprisonment.

The Canadian Prime Minster has no more power to get a foreign national out of a Chinese prison as the Presidents of the USA, France or PMs of England or Russia. Anything the Chinese government does is legal within its borders and unless you're going to trade something or someone the Chinese government doesn't have to do anything. It's not a failure of politics it's a failure of Chinese human rights management.

So don't excuse China's behavior by saying it could be worse and other nations do worse. China could do better and should be better.

 

This is the thing that a lot of people don't get or understand: Their country, their rules, anybody who thinks otherwise and thinks that China should be run according to the standards of what people in other countries think are ridiculous as most people can't even agree about how their own country is running.

"If that had happened in the USA scenerio" doesn't even matter, because it DIDN'T happen in the US. People who think it could be "better" apparently don't understand that what they have might not actually be "worse" but just different. Remember that beliefs are not chosen by birth but taught, that includes standards and religion. Not to mention people always want what benefits themselves, only very few think of the overall, so if this guy has a problem with China, he can choose to never go back instead of sprouting shit that really would just result in earning him money and change absolutely nothing.

Not to mention it doesn't matter the circumstance, if a man killed somebody in your family, no matter the reason, I doubt you can logically go: "Well, my family member deserves it, it's okay that he got killed by a total stranger." The fact is that he is an outsider in that country, as far as China is concerned, JUSTICE was served.