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BenVTrigger said:

Seriously. 

It seems like almost every time I go into a thread that has anything to do with MS at least half the comments are just bashing MS and Xbox.

Rare is a terrible developer

MS only cares about casuals

MS has no franchises

Xbox Live Iis a rip off

Kinect is dumb

MS fans only play shooters

I could go on for days.  A little criticism is fine as not everyone will like Xbox or it's games but it makes any sort of MS discussion nearly impossible in these forums.  People wonder why since the day this website started MS has always had a very small presence here and part of it is the constant endless downplaying of nearly everything Xbox related. 


1.) They certainly are these days, they are nothing like the old golden days.

2.) Not true, more casual friendly like any other consoles maybe, but not focused purely on them.

3.) They don't have ones worth mentioning, Halo is their most known one and nobody even knows what else is there for the most part on an average consumer level. I mean, when you say Age of Empires, who the fuck would think Microsoft other than the true strategy gamers? Age of Empires is the shit BTW, awesome shit.

4.) XBL Gold is a ripoff, but that's a known fact so who cares anymore? It's like saying the sun comes up from the east side from the on Earth perspective, we know it, but it's not like we can change it.

5.) Kinect on 360 is dumb, if they improve it for the Nextbox, then it has potential. Kinect works okay on PC, not great but ok, and if they have a good working PC/Nextbox version with drivers once the Nextbox is out, then I can see good things from it on Windows 8.

6.) MS Fans don't just play shooters obviously, the 360 is just a popular box for shooters, and most games have guns these days anyways, so shooters are popular anywhere TBH so that's like a 2008 argument, way outdated.