Stop blaming groups; confront individuals

[Mazty]

Mnementh said:

Mazty said:
My only thoughts are if you push the people away who have opinions, then the community will be worse off for it. Relaxed moderation is better and more welcome than strict moderation that quashes views.

Nope. If you let the troublemakers their way, the more reasonable member will be scared away.

Trouble makers =/= the opinionated. The mods here would benefit from learning troll bait when they see it rather than lashing out at the intended outcome. Reasonable members won't be scared away though, they just don't bother replying to trolls and carry on as normal. Ive seen it so many times that the opinionated get mistaken as trolls, and when they are all kicked out the site dies because no one actually starts good conversations.