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sunK1D said:
thismeintiel said:

I was refering to sales, as well.  MS doesn't stand a chance against Sony in Japan, and most likely EU, without the 1+ year head start and massive advantage in price they had with the 360.  Like I said, the only way for MS to win is if the PS4 sells like crap in the US, which it's not going to do.  MS may win the US, and possibly the UK, but they are not going to win WW or the gen.  Also, all those media consumers, as well as MS's mighty ad budgets, hasn't helped with Windows 8 sales.  It's not going to sway core gamers, either, if they choose to focus on the casual market and multimedia functions.


You're looking at it from a gamer perspective. I too think that Sony will win next gen... But in overall sales? MS doesn't need to win JP or Europe, they just need to sell their OneBox as a do-all device and that will move them past Sony worldwide without much trouble(should we still compare the next-xbox to the PS brand?). Then again, this is all relative to what MS is planning and we won't know more until next month.

Windows 8 doesn't figure into this...  It offers no compelling reason for users to upgrade. Whether the OneBox will be the next thing? We'll find out in the coming years.

If the Wii U has told us anything about next gen, it is that the core gamers are going to decide the outcome.  The Wii U screams casual friendly, from its tablet-like controller to its price, but the casuals aren't there.  If MS is banking on the casuals to give them a win, then they are making a HUGE mistake. 

Of course, there's also the fact that the majority of multimedia apps that people care about (Netflix, Youtube, Facebook, Twitter) will be on the PS4, as well.  And even if some are missing, this will completely be negated by the PS4 having a much improved web browser.  MS can't win on multimedia alone, nor will they.  And if rumors are correct that the NeXbox is going to have a version of Windows 8 running on it, that will turn people away.  They are already purposely avoiding it on PCs/laptops as it is.