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JWeinCom on 07 March 2013
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TruckOSaurus said:
o_O.Q said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Movesets are mostly equivalent between both games, the ring out mechanic adds a lot to Brawl like edge guarding, direction influence, momentum cancelling, recovery, spikes. Then there's other mechanics like stale move negation that are designed so fighters don't spam the same move all the time.


each character in all stars has to my knowledge edit : 4 additional moves ( because of the additional action button ) then there's the fact that moves tie into each other for combos i've played all the smashes ( although i admit i haven't played one recently ) and imo combat in allstars feels more varied

All Stars has Square, Triangle and Circle moves. Smash has Tilts, Smashes, Special moves. While Brawl doesn't have enough hit stun for combos like those you mention in All Stars, that doesn't mean you can't chain attacks to rack up a good 30 - 40% on someone. You just have to work for every hit you land.

I love both games but Brawl has more depth no doubt about it.


The thing is that in PSASBR, you can use circles and triangles in the air.  So that's 8 extra moves.  In Smash, there are no air smashes, and midair specials are typically the same as normal specials, except for a few cases like Kirby's Hammer. PSASBR on the other hand does not have dash attacks, wake up attaks, ang ledge attacks.  In any event counting moves is not a way to determine depth.

Smash doesn't have combos, and relies more on smart pressure, juggling, stage control, off stage play, edge guarding and so on.  PSASBR (in 1v1 at least) is more like MvC3, where your opjective is to poke until you land a hit and use your favorite dial a combo.  Of course, the fact that you can't kill people with anything but a super places an incredible emphasis on your ability to land one of three attacks.  Characters like Raiden can combo into a super off of like, anything, and characters like Sir Daniel and Toro are rendered almost useless due to bad supers.

PSASBR has some potential, but it can't compete with a franchise that has been around for about 10 years by when Brawl came out.