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Lawlight said:
Captain_Tom said:
Lawlight said:
Captain_Tom said:
Lawlight said:
So, on top of that $498 that Andrespetmonkey, we have to add:

- $24.65 (cheapest mouse + keyboard from Amazon).
- $91.17 for Windows 7

Note that we're assuming that we'll be using a TV here and we'll not include time and labour as part of the price. So, that's $613.82 for parts for a PC that will last a couple of years.


It willl last just as long as the PS4 if not longer.  

-This does everything the PS4 does and more.

-It is out NOW, and will cost about $450 when the PS4 launches.

-It is most likely slightly stronger than the PS4. 

Still you cannot even fathom that being worth the price?


- No, it won't last as long as the PS4 just like a mid-range PC from 2006 has been able to last as long the PS3. In other words, will that configuration allow me to play games well for the next 7-8 years? I doubt it.

- It can do more but this pc's purpose is for gaming.

- $450 - does that include the mouse + kb + OS?

- I'll believe Digital Foundry when they say "Put into perspective, this level of throughput exceeds that of even capable £120+ PC graphics cards, including current mid-range favourite the Radeon HD 7850."

-A midrange PC from 2006 does last as long as the PS3.  I know because I own one.  You do not, so I understand why you are skeptical.
-Look if all you are going to do is cover your ears and pretend its other uses don't exist, then yeah I guess I can't argue with a child.

-Yes that does include all that stuff.

-The fact is PS4's graphics card will be downclocked to save on yields and heat, while the PC's 7850 can always overclock an extra 20% to compete with high end cards.   If anything it will not be weaker.  

-Also a 7850 comes with Bioshock: Infinite and Tomb Raider.   So now you can deduct $110.  Hmm that makes it $500 for a PS4 now + being able to do everything you already need a PC for.

 

To everyone else:  Seriously people you need to calm down.  Why do PC's have to be bad price/performance wise?  It's like some of you can't accept that they are affordable now, and frankly idk why.  PC's were complete rip-offs in 2005 when SONY and MS were killing themselves to sell their consoles at massive losses, but that just isn't true anymore.  I will be getting a PS4 day 1 for its games, portability, and the fact that it can be used with my Vita.  However PC's really are worth looking into people. 

 

- So, what's the specs of that 2006 PC?

- Only one way to be sure of that one - wait for the PS4 to release.

- I'll still believe digital foundry over you when they say that PS4's GPU is more powerful. Funny how you ignore that.

- Even funnier when you're trying to pass the PS4 as a $500 machine.

-I didn't ignore DF, I am simply saying overclocking will trounce the benifits.  The 7000 series are legendary overclockers.

-What's funny?  I am saying it is $500 now!  

-It is abundently obvious you are running out of things to say back to me.

Specs:

X1900 GT -> was $200 and is decently stronger than the one in the PS3.

Core 2 Duo E6300 Overclocked to 3GHz-> was $230 at the time and didn't hold any games back until recently.  

I can easily play BF3 on Low-Medium in full 720p.  Looks better than BF3 on my PS3.

 

Question: Why would a PC not last as long?  You can adjust graphics settings so in 5 years "Low" will look like what "High" or "Ultra" does now (Excluding the original Crysis as always).  For instance I can run Fallout 3 on my $380 7970 AND my $35 6450.  One just looks vastly superior and can run graphics mods.  Also FO3 looks better on the 6450 than it does on consoles lol.