a increasingly apartheid Israel?

[the2real4mafol]

Kasz216 said:

the2real4mafol said:
If anyone can defend this action, they are basically saying to me that segregation between black and white people in the USA (especially the southern states) in the 1950's and 1960's was just, which it was not. Anyway, bring it on!

It's only a comparble situation if you consider the Palestinian territories part of Israel.  Also you know... if they were actually being segregated. (they aren't.)

Even then... not really afterall people of Palestinians who actually LIVE in Israel and are Israeli citizens still have to use the regular buses.

Additionally, they haven't actually stopped anyone from using normal bus lines.  Instead just having a discounted one for palestinian workers.  If you read the article you posted.

A similar situation would be if the US had special discounted busses for Mexican day labourers who came from mexico to work in the US and then return to Mexico... though the mexican labourers aren't actually forced to use the discounted bus, you'd just be stupid not to.  Meanwhile for mexican US citizens it's buisness as usual.

I mean there is a lot of shit you can critisize israel for, but this is just such a reach I can only conclude you didn't even read the entirity of the article you posted.  On balance, as it stands now, this is a huge net positve for Palestinian workers.  Could Israel abuse it in the future?  Sure, anything can be abused in the future.  Right now your ciritisizing something that will greatly improve the lives of Palestinian workers because I can imagine bus fare is expensive as hell.

The only people I can think of that should actually be against this are MAYBE Stickball and Kantor who think race based advantages and even then this is more based on roughly "nationalism" then race.  So probably not.

Maybe some libretarians would be against it on Social engineering terms. 

In some ways, they are segregated though. There have a massive wall right in front of them, Palestinians are contained within their region, like they are prisoners. There are certainly denied freedom of movement, thanks to Israel. Even though, most of them are not fanatics and just want to live their normal lives. 

As for the bus thing, it says that palestinians get their own buses because Israelis think they are "security risk". How is that not racist? That assuming all Arabs are dangerous, unstable loonies that love to blow shit up. Most Arabs are not like this. But If it the buses are cheaper for them anyway, i guess that's good but that wasn't so obvious in the article. Part of my problem, is that the "security risk" excuse could be used to segregate palestinians against anything in the future, even if it's not like that now.

Also, i wish conservatives could stop calling people like me who criticise Israel, anti-semitic it's really pathetic. (that's not aimed at anyone here) But Zionism is just a bad ideology like all the other forms of nationalism and fascism. 

Anyway, i think it's about time the US stood back and let Israel run itself.