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TruckOSaurus on 04 March 2013
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happydolphin said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Why do you reject milkyjoe'S point? In short, he's saying the first AC had immersive world and compelling story but the repetitive gameplay prevented it from reaching greatness. That's exactly what your thread is about, why reject his point and ask for another example?

I rejected his point because of how he presented it.

"I made the point that hundreds of games share the same basic story elements."

In that sentence, I saw NSMB versus AC, rather than AC1 vs AC2. It was only in his later post that I understood what that original sentence and the post containing it fully meant.

That's why they're video games and not movies, and I understand now that his posts are trying to say that good gameplay can bring a good story and world to life, but going back to your question I originally had difficulty accepting his point because of his basic premise "I made the point that hundreds of games share the same basic story elements." That's something I didn't agree with and threw me off.

But to get back on where we agree, certainly great gameplay can take an excellent story and vibrant world, and enhance it to gaming greatness. Yes, I agree with both of you there, hence why gameplay and story are so tightly knit.

However, I believe the ultimate goal is greatness. So a game that isn't repetitive but has basic gameplay yet an amazing story/world (maybe Journey, I never played it) can offer the player an experience like never before.

But a game with purely excellent gameplay but a basic story/world, would that be able to achieve greatness? I would seriously doubt it.

There's plenty of games that achieve greatness with basic story: Super Mario 64, Super Metroid, Super Mario World, Super Mario Bros. 3, Star Fox 64, Donkey Kong Country, Mega Man 2, Battletoads, Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, Super Castlevania IV, New Super Mario Bros. Wii (yes it's great).

There's genre that really don't need stories like fighters or racers but nevertheless produce awesome games like Mario Kart Wii or Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Rock Band.



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