Gameplay vs Story+

[bananaking21]

Jay520 said:

bananaking21 said:

even though i did generalize in my previous post i shouldnt have, a mistake on my part. usually racing games dont need or require a story as the only thing your going to do is race and maybe adjust the car. its a genre that doenst require a story admittedly because the univerise or world isnt important, its all about the race, there are no characters or anything to tell a story. my point was about games where the univerise of the game is important, or when exploration a key element of the game

Hmm...you're narrowing down the scope of games that should have a story. First you implied all games should have a story, when you said developers who make games with "pure gameplay" are just hiding the fact that story isn't important. Then you said all games shouldn't have a story; just those with a world or universe. Now you're saying all games with a world or universe don't need a story; just those in certain genres.  

You say "games where the universe of the game is important." I'm not sure what you mean by "universe" but if the universe if important, then that's probably because it's a vehicle used to tell the story. But there are plenty of games where it isn't about immersing yourself in the universe which are quite enjoyable. Still though, the universe is important in many games yet no story is required. Take Journey for example (this is based on what I've heard from the game; I haven't played it myself).

well i generalized in my first post, something i said i was mistaken about and mistaken when i did, coming to think about it though the only games that really dont have a story or need one are sports games (including racers). though some racers do succesfuly add a story (NFS underground2, crash karting game).

and by univerise of the game i meant the setting of the game, in killzone that would be helghan, in littlebigplanet that would be our imaginations or in red dead redemption that wild west back in 1910's. i cant comment on journey because i havent played it yet and i refuse to know anything about the game so i dont spoil it forself. and i honestly cant think of a game where the universe is so important and it is succesfuly immersive yet no story is required, could you give an example?