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DevilRising said:

@S.Peelman

Why would you say the "era of 2D Zelda is over"? I suppose you would have said that before NSMB on DS came out, for 2D Mario as well, yes? I would prefer 2D Zelda (and 2D Mario for that matter) to be sprite based, but that's my preference. But regardless, I can see them eventually putting out another overhead, classic styled Zelda game. Why not? You say Zelda will be "3D, as it should be"....why is that? Personally, I find nothing in the opinion that 3D gaming is superior to 2D. They're two different things, and I honestly think there's room enough for both. In fact I'd like to see a lot MORE 2D games these days. I think that the entire games market jumped on the 3D bandwagon before they should have, and really abandoned 2D for the most part, when they had still barely scratched the surface of what 2D graphics and gameplay could offer with more powerful hardware. You look at an "old" (by now) game like Symphony of the Night. It was a masterpiece for it's time....but they could do so much better. I see modern games like Wario Land: Shake It, A Boy and His Blob, and Muramasa (and Vanillaware's other games for that matter), and know that I was right about that. I see those games, and salivate at the idea of a gorgeous 2D hand-drawn Metroid like that, or a gorgeous hand drawn Zelda, etc. etc.

There is still a lot of life left in 2D, as far as this man's concerned, and to me it will never "get old" or be "past it's time". 2D gaming is it's own experience, and I think it would be to the benefit of gaming in general that it sticks around. Personally, I get rather tired of all the big budget, "AAA" 3D games that flood the market these days.....so I get rather stoked when I see something come along like Vanillaware's Dragon's Crown (which I wish would fucking come out already).

I get how you feel, I really do. My second favorite Zelda is a 2D game; Link's Awakening. I still play my NES and SNES fairly regularly, it's not getting old for me either. Yoshi's Island I feel is one of the most beautiful and one of the best games ever made. And regardless of what happens, I will be the first in line!

However, when I say "[it] will be 3D, like it should" (which, I give you, was a little harsh a term) I meant it when considering 'exposure'. They can't justify an overhead 2D and sprite based Zelda now, when there's Mario 3D Land and Ocarina 3D. Zelda is one of their 'representative' franchises. Every entry in the series is an advertisement for the system, which is probably why they pour so much money into each entry even when it only sells a small amount of units compared to most Mario titles. Arguably, together with 3D Mario, it is what people look at when wanting to know what a system can do. If a new, main-line and original 3DS Zelda would be sprite based, the general public and the press would be massively underwhelmed ("That's it?") and it wouldn't be representative of what the system is about. The world has changed in that regard.

It's a lot easier with Mario. The franchise has so many branches in so many genres, and none of them are expected to follow a certain pattern. Also, it has much simpler gameplay mechanics than a full Zelda. For Mario, it's much easier to justify an entry in 'retro-style' as it shows little evolving anyway due to it's nature. Next to 2D Mario, of which I agree has revitalised the sidescroller genre brilliantly, you still have the ground-breaking main series and nobody would argue NSMB and the Galaxies belong together in the same line. They live side by side. Of course, you could argue they do the same for Zelda, advertise it as a seperate spin-off series (which I wouldn't oppose), but that's a whole other discussion! For the main series, which until now is still the only series to begin with, it's best to keep this 'representative' approach. Maybe they can give the Tingle game a sequel .

I hope that clears it up a little .

Veknoid_Outcast said:

Very good points.

Still, I hope the era of 2D Zelda isn't over for good. The 2D platform game is still alive and well, thanks in large part to Nintendo, so I'm hopeful top-down 2D action-adventure games will stay healthy too.

They could release a digital one some day, a side-game, an hommage to the 2D age of sorts. Or, like I replied to DevilRising create a spin-off series, like Mario who has so many, as a fan service .