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J_Allard on 27 February 2013
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StaleCheetos said:
J_Allard said:
StaleCheetos said:

Very well put. I hope a lot of people see this post and realize that they are paying for something that is available across other platforms for free. The only argument people can make is being able to play xbox exclusive games, that you could otherwise not play on another console for a fee, and it's a poor argument indeed.

That was a nice list of features he made. Of course, like pretty much everything he's replied to me with, it's irrelevant to the point. His list doesn't mention the fact that Live does pretty much everything online related better than PSN. I'm not going to bother going into detail about how or why it does them better because that is an argument that has been done a thousand times. But still, the point is, if someone can sit there in this very thread and explain to me why a PS+ subscription is worth it even though another platform offers it for free, then someone who thinks XBLG is worth it can do the same thing. But according to some people here, that isn't the case. That's just funny to me. Some people need to get over themselves.

Also, since we're comparing irrelevant lists and you mentioned free things on other platforms, lets do PS+ vs Steam:

Automatic updates - Both have them and on Steam you can toggle them on a game by game basis. On PS+ it downloads crap for games I haven't played in months and my only option to stop that from happening is to simply turn the updates off completely.

Cloud storage - Both have it and with Steam you can upload a lot more than just game saves.

Free content - Both platforms have it and unlike PS+, your games are actually free on Steam. It's not a rental.

Discounts - Both have them and we all know Steam wins this category.

And yet even with that list, some will tell me PS+ is worth it. And that's fine by me. And even after his list, I can tell you XBLG is worth it. Both are valid.

I agree that Steam has some Pros compared to PS+, including the discounts. But that isn't really the point. unlike XBL, PS+ isn't mandatory service. You don't need/have to have a PS+ subscription in order to play online or enjoy your system to the fullest. 

As to which service offers what better, does that small difference really matter in the end? I mean both are able to do it and as long as it gets the job done, I don't see how people can argue about who does messaging, video chat, etc. better. It's doing what you what you want it to do and in the end that's all that matters.

Anyways, I'm not trying to say that one is better than the other becuase I honestly think that XBL does some things better than PSN, and vice versa. but now that PSN has "caught up" the only argument I'm seeing on this thread is the price alone is worth being able to play exclusive games online. 

Sorry if my grammar gives you cancer. I'm no good!

Other platforms offering the same thing for free apparently is the point. Whether or not Gold is "mandatory" service (it isn't) is not the point.

And why would superior performance and features of Live not matter in the end? They are what makes it worth a dime a day. Sorry but saying "xbl has messaging, psn has messaging too!" just doesn't cut it. PSN has video messaging and text messaging. Live has both of those plus voice messaging and party chat. And not only does it have more ways to chat, it works much better. When I get a text message on PSN I have to load up the XMB (which takes awhile if you're in game), cycle to my messages, inbox, then the message. And God help you if you want to try and reply while in game. On XBL I receive the message notification, hit the guide button, and it opens the message right up. Faster, easier. That's Live over PSN in a nutshell. Saying "hey they both have demos" isn't good enough either. Every single game on XBLA has a demo. It's required. There have been plenty of PSN games I would love to buy but have no means of trying because there is no demo. I could go on and on with this type of stuff but there is no point in this thread :) You guys have fun.