S.T.A.G.E. said:
J_Allard said:
I'm skimming over the post you quoted and looking for the part where I say the services are the same and I just don't see it. Maybe you can bold it so I understand the context of that long, irrelevant tangent you went on? It doesn't matter what the services are or what they offer. If you can find value in one then any rational, mature person would understand that someone do the same to another. Or another. And so on and so forth.
And of course MS blocks the online portion of games. are u a wizard? Otherwise, what's the point? It's just like when Sony gives you "free" games but then the second you no longer subscribe, all those free games are gone. That's another one of those delicious carrots you like to talk about. If they let you keep the games then people could just subscribe whenever a huge game came out and then keep it forever. That stops the revenue from coming in. If MS allowed the most basic online play on the titles then less people would subscribe. That stops the revenue from coming in. I hope this is making sense to you. Furthermore you harp on the notion that PSN offers "90%" of what XBLG does (which is entirely subjective, I happen to think PSN is a bit of a joke). I could just as easily claim Steam does "90%" of what PS+ does and it does it for free and with much better discounts.
You don't really seem to understand the idea that other people look at things differently. "no defending" is just an opinion. You seem to be mistaking it for fact. I don't have an issue with MS locking out online play. Just like I don't have an issue with Sony locking free games when a subscription runs out. They are up front about both and you have a choice. Last time I will respond to you in this thread. If Sony tomorrow announced online play was a premium feature you'd be singing a different tune and that's sad.
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Whenever someone refuses to understand a point they cling to the notion that someone is going off on a tangent. I am completely on point with what I am saying. Free PSN offering 90% of what Xbox Live offers is not subjective.
Various Apps? Both have it (In fact Sony had it first)
Music services? Both have it (but on Sony you have a free trial before you pay because their is first party)
Video chat? Both have it
Messaging? Both have it
Demos, add ons and digital downloads? Both have it
Notifiers, blocking and sleeping? Both have it
In game chat? Both have it
Online gaming? Both have it
Themes? Both have it
Movie services? Both have it
Avatars? both have it
Multimedia storage for pictures and videos? Both have it.
Seasonal sales? Both have it. (In fact Sony has more even without PSN Plus)
Everything that matters and makes the HD Twins online what it is today, both consoles have on their online and there is absolutely nothing subjective about that. That is concrete and cannot be disputed. One company is forcing you to pay for it, thats all.
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Not that this debate hasn't been done before, but there was a great post about the little details as to why the services aren't exactly the same, even though on paper both have them. Little things like not being able to redownload your movies you bought off of PSN if you've deleted them, etc, so the comparison isn't as simple as just saying they both have them.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3987345
