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I don't really equate nominal attempts at attracting casual/nongamers using flOw and Viva Pinata to Nintendo's attempt to buying the hardcores via its flagship titles. It's Super Mario Galaxy ferrchrissake! Should I even mention SSBB?? I put those two at the same level as Halo 3, FFXIII and GTA4 in terms of moving systems. (SSB Melee sold 6 million copies on the Gamecube, and Super Mario Galaxy is a true Super Mario Bro sequel) Viva Pinata and flOw are no Wii Sports and waggle either.