To those who think they have an accurate view of the community.

[MARCUSDJACKSON]

Jay520 said:
This thread isn't about condemning trolls, fanboys, or Sales2099. It is more directed at people with beliefs like Carl (though his behavior isn't a problem). It is about people who claim to know which fanbase has the greatest proportion of troublesome users. Of course during certain periods of time, certain fanbases will be more troubling than others depending on the news, as we've seen with the Vita and the Wii U.

But it's people who think (a) believe they can use their memory to accurately determine how much trolling there was in the past in relation to now, (b) believe their time spent in the two or three relevant sections of the site are equal enough to give their brain equal opportunity to catch trolling in each section, and believe that their method for detecting trolling isn't harmed at all by their bias.

People with these beliefs think they *know* that certain fans are just generally inherently worse people than others, regardless of their opportunity to troll. They tend to say things like "well A fans are just worse than B fans" rather than "I've noticed more A fans trolling than B fans trolling." And when asked how they know which fanbase trolled more, they might say something like, "because I remember silly! Think of all the A trolls. Now think of all the B trolls. The worse group is obvious. I trust that what I noticed, observed, and remembered is an accurate, comprehensive representation of the entire website."

This thread was inspired by a recent debate I saw between a well known Sony fan and a well known Nintendo fan. They were both arguing over which fanbase were the bigger trolls. The Sony fan said Nintendo fans attacked the Vita more, while the Nintendo fan claimed Sony fans attacked the Wii U more. Both people thought they somehow had an accurate view of what was going on. Neither of them bothered to think about the fact that they didn't spend an equal amount of time in the threads for the other console. Nor did they acknowledge that even if they entered in a similar amount of threads for both consoles, that they naturally wouldn't notice the attacks equally for both consoles.

That's why I made the thread talking about the similarities between the reactions of Sony fans and Nintendo fans with the Vita and Wii U. I was surprised to see how strikingly similar both fanbases reacted, but was more surprised that most people didn't acknowledge this and some continued to believe there was some intrinsic divide in personality based on console preference.

That smiley face is supposed to be ( c ). Oh well, might as well leave it.

yea well said. these fans are basing things off the stance they take from defense, when these act's happen.

they can't sit in neutral corner's after being attacked by the otherside, and have an objective view, unless they've become or have stayed rational knowing it's something both/all sides do.

no one side does more trolling then the other when they'er trolling about the samethings.