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kain_kusanagi said:
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I didn't make this thread to justify why MS charges for XBLG, that's not my job. ike I've said many times, if XBLG was free I'd be happy. I'm just tired of people being treated like idiots for enjoying amazing games like Halo 4 just because PSN is free. If you could play Halo 4 on PSN I'd cancel my XBLA subscription. If Sony charged to play Killzone or Uncharted online I'd pay.

BTW, I don't have a problem buying Mass Effect DLC. Those games are amazing without the DLC and even better with it.

But you are justifying paying for XBLG because it has Halo. In fact Halo has been the only consistent argument you have given in favour of XBLG. You were pointing out how MMO players pay a monthly fee to play online when you yourself essentially have been paying $4 a month to play online. Let me reiterate: there is nothing wrong with that. If you like Halo so much then there is nothing wrong with paying however much MS charges for it. If you find value in it, then go for it because it is something that you can only find with MS.

But the people who are arguing against XBLG are not doing so against the exclusives it offers. We are arguing about the things that are common with other services. For example, take Black Ops 2. You can play BO2 online on PSN, Nintendo Network and Steam without paying any extra charges. This ability to play online is covered by the intial $60 we pay for the game. Then why is MS charging another $4 a month on a 3rd party game, who are handling their own online infrastructure, to access the online portion of the game? We already paid for the online once when we bought the game, but why do we have to pay more on XBLG to play the game? What exactly are they offering more that the other 3 platforms aren't offering? Same with other services such as Netflix, which we already pay a subscription for and is available on PC, PSN, NN, etc without any extra cost, but why do we have to pay more to access something we are already paying for on XBL? Is XBLG offering something more, like free movies in Netflix on its platform that warrants the extra charge?

You see if MS charged $4 a month for its EXCLUSIVE games or services such as Halo or Gears, then there would be no argument here, even though other platforms such as PSN and NN offer free online for their exclusive games. You could just say I like playing Halo (because it is subjective) for a monthly fee just like MMO people like paying for their games monthly, and this content is only found in XBLG, so I have no choice. And we would all say that's cool because to each their own. But when MS starts charging and blocking out content that we already paid for and are available on other platforms without any extra cost (like BO2 MP), thats when people complain that XBLG is flawed. That is the argument.