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RolStoppable said:
thismeintiel said:

You just explained why the PS4 will do better than the NeXbox.  The Playstation brand is globally appealing.  Yea, MS MAY take NA and UK again, but the gaps there will not be as big.  In EU and Japan, mostly Japan, they are probably no even going to give the NeXbox a second thought.  Not without the year launch gaps and $200 price difference.  And Nintendo seems to have singlehandedly taken the Wii U out of the running for 1st.  Especially if they are sticking with the "no pricecut" line for most of 2013.

Oh, and 360 launched at $299, not over $400.  Research, my firend. 

Beating the Nextbox doesn't equal doing fine though. What I've maintained in this thread is that both, the PS4 and Nextbox, will stumble out of the gates, because they simply won't have enough appealing software to justify their price tags. If you need an extreme example to understand what I mean, look at Guitar Hero and Rock Band. Guitar Hero was beating Rock Band right up until the end, but that didn't make GH a winner. That's not to say that the next round of consoles will be discontinued, but that success should not be measured solely by outselling the competition. If the Nextbox and PS4 both launch worldwide in November, I'd be surprised if either of them sold through 4m+ units by March 31st, 2014.

I know that the 360 Core model launched at $299, but it was so gimped that it accounted for so few sales that it can be disregarded entirely.

So, you're going to base this on how well they sell at launch?  How did that work out for the Wii U, which started out above the PS3 and 360 and not too far below the Wii?  It doesn't matter how well they start out, but how they continue to sell.  Just like it didn't matter how strong the Wii started out and weak the PS3 started out, they are both going to finish at about the same number of units sold. 

Only the PS3 has left a better taste in the core gamers' mouths.  The exact same market that is going to matter next gen.  Which, if rumors are true, is the mistake MS is making.  They think as many casuals that turned out for this gen are going to be there for next, so seem to be aiming more for a casual market, with a few bones thrown to the core.  This is partly the reason for the response to the Wii U.  They had a touchscreen pad for the casuals who already enjoy playing on tablets at home, but aimed to be on par graphically with the PS3, which will turn off core gamers for years to come, as many already have 360s and PS3s.  I just don't think casuals are going to turn out in droves like this gen.