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thismeintiel said:

My point was that a lot of people, including myself, thought that MS and Sony would drop their prices to help draw people away from the Wii U.  The fact that they didn't need to is very telling.  And the Wii U needs more than a few multiplats and a couple of first party games later this year to make it sell better than the 360 and PS3, both of which are outselling its WW sales in NA alone.  The only way the Wii U will start outselling the 360 and PS3 is if Wii U gets some games AND a $80-100 price cut (this is what combats the HW not being very appealing to the public.)  If it doesn't get both of those, then it will have to wait til the 360 and PS3 naturally decline until it can outsell them.

As I said in my previous post.  You don't go from selling like a dying console 2 months after launch to being the market leader.

Your first paragraph is just wrong but I'll skip over that...

I never said they would be a market leader. That would imply that the Wii U would sell better than the 3DS, which is a tough thing to do. But, the Wii U can and will rise up with it's sales and become a competitor with First Party titles and bundles. It shouldn't be too hard to get the Wii U to sell just as good as the PS3 or X360. And if the Wii U manages that it should easily manage to put a hold on the PS4 and NextBox's "gangbuster" sales.