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NintendoPie said:
thismeintiel said:

Like I told Kowen, that was before the $80 price cut.  I definitely don't see the 60% even being possible, now.

I don't see why people keep spouting this BS about the PS4 being too expensive at ~$399.  For the largest part of 2007, when the world economies took a nosedive, the PS3 was still $499.  It dropped to $399 for only 2 months of that year, yet it sold 7.92M units.  That's 1.12M more than the 360 sold in its 2nd year, which had a much better economy to sell in.  A PS4 at $399-$429 will do just fine.

As for the Wii U part, yes, I do think the sales of Wii U will definitely pick up after more games and a price cut.  However, you don't go from selling like a dying console 2 months after launch to being the market leader.  It's selling even worse than the PS3 at this point, which launched for $200 more and wasn't even available in EU.  I don't think Sony and MS really have anything to fear from the Wii U.  They didn't even have to change their 360 and PS3 pricing to compete with it.

You pretty much went against what you just said. The Wii U is going to get more games, like you said in the first sentence. Then you said that the PS3 and 360 are outselling it. Why? They have games, way more games than the Wii U. But, the Wii U will get these games. So it'll start to sell just as well if not better than the 360 and PS3.

429$ will not work out. 399$ is a strech. Besides, we don't know the actual price yet. I'm expecting it to be around 429$ base, but that's what I'm expecting. You are acting like 399$ base is set in stone. Edit: I would also like to say that 399$ is still not the best price. People won't like that.

My point was that a lot of people, including myself, thought that MS and Sony would drop their prices to help draw people away from the Wii U.  The fact that they didn't need to is very telling.  And the Wii U needs more than a few multiplats and a couple of first party games later this year to make it sell better than the 360 and PS3, both of which are outselling its WW sales in NA alone.  The only way the Wii U will start outselling the 360 and PS3 is if Wii U gets some games AND a $80-100 price cut (this is what combats the HW not being very appealing to the public.)  If it doesn't get both of those, then it will have to wait til the 360 and PS3 naturally decline until it can outsell them.

As I said in my previous post.  You don't go from selling like a dying console 2 months after launch to being the market leader.