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Capulous on 23 February 2013
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forevercloud3000 said:
Darc Requiem said:
easyrider said:

ps2 was just as flawed but with out social media and also without a extended warranty. MS did everything right but you seem to have forgot ps2, so why should we be mad about this if it was handled way better.

I'm glad someone mentioned it. I always chuckled when obvious Sony fanboys brought up RROD. Sony had DRE issues on both PS1 and PS2. They, til this day, deny there was any issue. However they quickly settled the class action lawsuit over it.

once again, PS2 failure rate was within the normal means of hardware (which I believe is 10% standardly), Sony got sued for it simply because of the shear number of people who had PS2s, which made the number of malfunctions seem worse than it was. 360 is pushing no less than 33% and possibly past 50% before they finally  issued the remodel and slim.

Can you provide proof for these failure rates that you are stating? Especially the claims for the PS2. I know most,if not all, of the 360 failure claims are from non scientific polls. It comes down to which side you are arguing for.

"Sony got sued for it simply because of the shear number of people who had PS2s..." So you are basically saying that it was a high number of failed systems. This was not early in the generation either; it was what 2005-2006? How many PS2 were sold at this point? RROD happened early in the 360's life cycle, how many 360 were sold at this point? It is possible to say that the failure rate of the PS2 could possibly be much higher in numbers than the 360 failure rate. The PS1 suffered from similar disc reading issues as well. So if problems persisted from PS1 to PS2, why would you continue to buy their products?

As for other points:

- Do you know why the original Xbox production was stopped? Are you aware that many Xbox games are playable on the 360? I think backwards compatibility is a good thing. I hope the next Xbox will have it as well.

- There are less exclusives now a days, so what? That means people who cannot afford more than one system will still be able to play the game. It is a good thing for publishers and gamers. 

- What exactly is a hardcore gamer in your mind?

- You are paying to use their service; beside if you are in America, you do not have to pay for LIVE at all. (Not sure if it is offered in any other country though.) PSN+ games are not free, you pay to have access to them. Didn't Sony state that PS3/PSN content will not transfer over to PS4/PSWorld? If this is true, what would be your justification for that?

- Cheap skating? What about the redesigns of the PS systems that remove features and components without lowering the price of the system? Why is that ok? As for HDMI and wifi; it would have been nice for the Xbox to have them in the beginning, but it was done to keep cost down. Neither was that big, especially hdmi, in the beginning of the generation, but it has been added and it is standard on their systems now. I fail to see the point in bringing this up now.