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I meant no harm or show fanboyish in my post i was just stating facts to people who falsely give the next gen crown to the PS4 due just to power alone which should be the more powerful system (2nd to the PC of course) due to the history behind the more powerful consoles. To reply to the Wii not winning last gen comment i must say is a false statement it has by far won with nearly 100 million sold but i will be the first to say the Wii in no way shape or form was a gamer's choice with only a handful of games worth playing IMO out of all the shovelware aimed towards the casual crowd but hey a win is a win in my book.

To get back on topic Sony has IMO dug a hole and possible a grave with this PS4 due to serval factors...

Price Point
Loss Per System
(Rumor) No Used Games

These 3 factors go hand in hand for a console to be successful because Price Point and No used Games = loss in sales of the system and Loss Per System only works if the console sells a giant amount equaling game sales to make up for the loss. I in no way can see this PS4 being less then 500 due to the hardware inside this power house console and even then id say it will be sold at a loss so any lower then 500 will result in too much of a loss and due to Sony's economic state at the current moment they need to sell a system at a gain not a loss! They could have easily cut some corners and still be "Next Gen" power house,compete with the consoles power not PCs Sony! Are the games for this system gonna be $60 or will they go up $70 or maybe even $80?