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nnodley on 15 February 2013
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Adinnieken said:

I'm not ignoring anything.  You however are ignoring the very article you cited.  In it, they say that the ESRAM does essentially make up for the lower bandwidth of the GDDR3 memory.  It doesn't equate to a 1:1 relationship, but we're talking a difference of about 14 GBps.  A negligible performance difference.

The ESRAM however doesn't do anything for Kinect.  The purpose of ESRAM is to provide faster memory for portions of code where performance is necessary.  Again, in the article you cited, a programmer from an actually game studio, goes on to explain that the majority of game code doesn't require the high speed memory.  The game doesn't benefit from having access to it.  Only in some specific instances does high speed memory benefit the code.  And it's actually more difficult to put a 4GB bank of GDDR5 memory together than it is to put an 8GB GDDR3 memory bank together.  As explained in the article you cited, GDDR5 memory only comes in 512MB banks, so getting anything more than 4GBs in a single memory configuration is painfully difficult.  Again, read the article you cited.

Sony loads up the PS4 with extremely high-speed memory, but the majority of code that'll access it won't be able to take advantage of it.  The next Xbox includes 8GB of slower memory, but includes 32MB of EDRAM.    What you don't quite fathom is it becomes 6 of 1 and a half-dozen of another.  If the PS4 has a performance gain it's negligible.  It won't amount to a hill of beans. 

The only way exclusives could be better is if they offer 4K resolution, which I doubt they will.  Sony and it's 1st party developers may decide to present 4K games to the public, but I doubt they'll actually release any. 

This was the whole reason why I made the thread about what was valid reason to buy a PS4.  The two consoles will be about even in terms of performance, the majority of games, the same.  The only difference will be the "hook" each brings to the market to get consumers/gamers hyped on buying the console.  A new Dual Shock gamepad doesn't quite do it. 



I don't want in this dumb and pointless argument you and VGking are in, but what you wrote in the bold just irks me like no other.   Why would someone want to buy a ps4?  Oh, I don't know maybe because they want to and like the exclusives that are out for it.  Me personally am not gonna look at a peripheral that comes with the console and be like well the nexbox comes with a gimmicky kinect 2.0 that is it's main selling point and ps4 doesn't, so I'll buy that.  I'm buying a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE not an effing PC and I'm gonna look at the exclusives that come with each one and choose based on that.  That's all I want is GAMES.  And, also your asking the same question that can apply to all the consoles for each generation.  The ps360 are close in performance and the majority of the games look and play the same.  I'm gonna probably get both the ps4 and nexbox, so no I'm not a fanboy of sony.  It just makes no sense why you would ask that about just the ps4 and not the nexbox too.  

But, whatever.  That's just my rant over a pretty dumb question.

*edit* You have the right to ask what you want and I'm not attacking you.  This is just something that irks me a lot.  I could have put this in your thread, but it was more convenient to put it here.