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richardhutnik on 14 February 2013
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Kasz216 said:
richardhutnik said:
Kasz216 said:
richardhutnik said:
coolguy said:
The democrats are famous for voter fraud.

In Chicago, where the dead have voted.

Well, and in a lot of recent multiple cases where the never existed have... although as i recall a private get out the vote contractor hired by the Republicans has been hit by this too in Ten. so it's not like it's JUST one way.

The illegal voting that goes on just tends to benefit Democrats hence why they're against such legislation.  (and why Republicans thought it would win Romney the election, it wouldn't have.)

Fears about keeping legitamtie people away from the polls are unfounded.  Democrats found one woman who they thought would be too burdened to be able to get the needed ID to vote.  What happened?  They lost the case... then she got the proper ID to vote.

 

It is turning a blind eye to possible legitimate issues and going into it just enough to use it as a political tool.  With issues involving gerrymandering and more, there isn't interest in real votes, just obtaining and holding power.

Which is why you need the voter ID laws.  They catch registration problems and more.

"Papers please".

If you end up charging people for these IDs, then it is a poll tax.  If you don't charge them for it, then it is a burden put on local governments, or another expense state and federal government needs to pick up.  If unfunded, it becomes yet another unfunded mandate for local and state governments to bear.

And then the next thing, see original quote, it ends up like a national identity card, and gets into civil rights issues here, about the right to privacy. 

And also, voter ID cards won't catch the issues with registration, not if the system is not going to bother to check the backgrounds of folks at all.  You still have holes in there.  

Throw in also the costs to get a system in place, and it becomes an issue.  But of course, the issue again isn't to have voting done right, it is shaped for political reasons.  Do any of the individuals who scream about voter fraud, and post in forums like this about how it is an issue, even bother talking about how not all the votes that should be counted aren't?  Like a system that drives people away?  Nah.... doesn't matter that not all the people who can vote do, in places that vote Democratic.  Like, it is JUST FINE that the following happened in Florida (over 200,000 driven away from polls due to the lines):

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/os-voter-lines-statewide-20130118,0,1394591.story

Do you think thranx would EVER post an article on that?  Of course not...  It doesn't match the political agenda of the poster.  It isn't about voting integrity, it is about having things break the way you want.  I am at a place where I am really getting tired of that.  And yes, maybe I have the same bias.