ToraTiger said:
Sure after studying the life of plants we humans have deducted that it's Sun, seeds, water and other organisms that causes them to grow. Can Science explain why this happens? And if so, can they explain how that happened? See? Like I've said, It's just gonna go on forever And I think it's truely ashame that after all the Religions man has adopted, people are trying to say that it was based on premativity? Sure sounds loco if you ask me. I've said that to say this, If some study of modern life can determine how the World began (This is just for arguement's sake, honestly how are we to believe something that happened so long ago, before our existance and without much to back it up?) That still doesn't explain why it happened. Granted, the same could be done with Religion, that being said, I've stated that to show how laughable the Science vs Religion debate stands with me and many others. If someone said, "Hey, I don't think there's a God", I could understand that and respect it, but trying to debate it with these external science "facts" and that we're now ignorant to believe in God because we now know how our World works a little better. It's just a couple of squirrels shy of a nut house, if you ask me. Here's something else that Science and man will never truely be able to understand nor label, Why can't we all be like animals with disregard for no one but our selfs? And how come most every culture has the same basis as to what is right and what is wrong? Where is this decided in our DNA? :p And for those out there who say we adopted Religion because of a fear of death if we truely feared death to a point of yielding to an unknown force, why is it that Ancient Egytians, believed in both God and reincarnation? In fact, lots of Ancients believed in reincarnation, like the Mayans So my analogy is this, believing in God has no correlation with the fear of death. You people just come off as opinionated to me. Surely we do know more about our surrondings than before, but we still can't determine where our minds go after we die, and if we are truely being reborned into other vessels or we just stay in limbo, or go to Heaven or Hell. And that Big Bang Theory...If we existed by chance, and there was no God, then how come the realization of God came to us before that theory? That just sounds like a mad (albiet, intellegent) person trying to make humans play God to me. And if my post sounds offensive or demeaning, that surely wasn't my intention as I respect all beliefs (Not believing is also a belief!) and only wish for others to do the same. Also, nice note DaRev! They can't disregard some logics and accept others! |
What are you talking about? Really? If something in science is proven wrong, then it's wrong and we start all over again. Just look at evolution. The THEORY is over 150 years old, and thus far we have ONLY found evidence that life actually works this way; the theory of evolution has been able to withstand scrutiny for well over 100 years, and is therefore considered a fact. We still have gaps in it, but it explains the origin of life far better than any religious text has been able to do so far. Science do not blindly believe a theory; it is scrutinized, tested and debated. If the theory holds up after all that, then it's the closet to the truth we've gotten so far. If we were to scrutinize, test and debate the creation in the bible we'd pretty soon find that THAT theory doesn't hold up very well.
Asking WHY things happened is a whole different field. That's more of a philosophical question rather than a scientific one. Science try to get the answer as to HOW things happened, not why. But on some instances we actually DO KNOW why as well. Just look at the Theory of Relativity.
And science CAN actually tell us why we behave like we do and why every society has the same moral basis. It's actually very closely related to evolution. You can watch a whole bunch of documentaries about this on youtube.
And could the reason be, as to why people want to believe in reincarnation and/or the paradise, is because they don't want THIS life to end? Of course people don't wanna die and be left in the ground for the rest of time. I don't wanna die and have nothing happening after that. That was really a stupid argument. If I promised you that when you die you'll go to a wonderful place, have as much cake as you want to and all the women you can enjoy - of course you WANT to believe that rather than listening to the guy down the street saying "this is all we got, when you die there's nothingness".
In the beginning, like 100 000 years ago, when men first started to walk the Earth and looked upon the sky with its stars, and the moon, and the sun - what were they to make of all this? They had no telescopes, they had no satellites they could send into orbit, and they no understanding of the physical laws. What they DID have (and still does) was imagination, so they used this imagination as best they could to try to make some sort of cohesive context of all this mess - and thus, religion was born. Also, religion is a pretty good way to make people do like you want them to do.
And I don't find the existence of a god to be logical. It would make for a very petty god if you ask me. I've never seen anything that is as evil as the abrahamic god. Not even Hitler or Stalin stands a chance against god! I'd rather much have Odin and Thor, or Zeus and Apollo.
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