richardhutnik said: If you have a very lax system for registering voters, then you run into problems with people who shouldn't vote, actually voting. The place where the fraud is with the voter is one where a person isn't prevented from voting more than once. If it is done right, then you would only have one vote.
If you want to stop voter registration fraud it is NOT done by checking ID at the voting area, it is done when you register. And yes, there is a chance at voter irregularities with that. BUT the whole voter fraud thing is NOT about legitimate voting, it is about keeping individuals who won't vote Republican, away from the voting area. It is a political power play above about everything else. And if you don't think so, well then you do have a problem. And I can tell this, because you can guess where a person stands on a lot of issues if they keep harping on this. Check what thranx has written about political in the past, and you see.
In short, you are a political tool to advance the agenda of a political party. Thranx, you are a tool, congrats!
wow. dont know what i did to you. I only brought it up as so many here said it never happens and doesn't exist. here she clearly states what she did and that she thinks its ok and that her daughter did it to. So voter fraud does happen and does exist. Contrary to some peoples beliefs on here. I was also trying to start a discussion on waht can be done. I also dont vote republican, although they are closer to my view than deomcrats, i see them as two sides of the same coin and vote third party only. And yes please see what i have written here on politics. I think we all know who the tool is by how they post. way to avoid the issue and attack the messanger though. You say the way to solve it is by stopping it when registering to vote, well how will you check? with an ID or some other method? if its by ID than how that differ from those who want to check IDs at voting booths? I have no love for republicans or democrats, or any politition that wants to grow the size of government or add uneeded ill thought out regulations.
Voter fraud would be an issue if people vote more than once. The bigger problem seen here isn't duplicate voting, but people who shouldn't be votijng actually voting.
The reality now is the issue is a political one, brought up to keep away people who won't vote Republican from the polls. The proposals are at the polling areas. What you listed here involved absentee ballots (you even listed that here). IDs won't fix this issue of absentee ballots at all.
Again, the issue with voter fraud is either duplicate voting or someone else voting in the place of someone else. The core of the issue is now political, and is being raised for political reasons, as is stated. Voter registration fraud gets people who shouldn't be on the ballot roles on the ballot roles.
Because of the way it is being framed, what comes up is "there is almost NO cases of fraud at the polling places". Thus, there is no problem with issues with voting. That is because of how it is framed. Issues of hacking voting machines, and what I mentioned about issues with registration get ignored. Both of these are not resolved with IDs at the polling places. What the checking of IDs at polling booth does, is end up driving away people from actually voting, who won't vote Republican.
If you are't seeing this, then you are remain blind to the political side of things:
