A supreme irony, but some would say they had it coming.

[Dodece]

@badgenome

Obviously you are a blessed individual. Seeing as you haven't stumbled upon any Creationists that are actually beyond something as mundane as crazy. Some in that community are so divorced from reality that they have sequestered, or walled themselves off utterly from anything that isn't literally not to be found in the Bible. They don't actively dispute or litigate the issue. They just don't even acknowledge that the issue exists, and don't tell me that I am ignorant on this subject, because I have met these people in real life, and I have talked to them.

To be honest I wouldn't care to talk to any of these people ever again in my life, because they are truly miserable, hostile, vicious people, and altogether terrifying. Thankfully they keep largely to themselves which is why you aren't likely to know much about them, but I can assure you that they are very real indeed. I had to work with one of these people, and even the Christians that worked with me gave the guy a wide berth, because he would go off with a full blown screaming tirade with like no provocation.

As for your second train of logic. Which is a advocacy for a foundational bias, and quite frankly it is just another really shallow attempt on your part to derail the subject. My reasoning for presenting a question isn't a justification for you trying to change the subject. Would you care to try again without any blowhard shenanigans, and actually take the time to answer my question.

I am starting to think that your only goal in posting here is to try to stymy others who want to discuss the topic in earnest. I think you probably feel so threatened by even the notion. That you will do just about anything to keep others from entertaining the thought. Stop trying to penalize me for your own cowardice. If you can't stomach the question, and outright have no intention of answering it then please by all means leave the thread.

I have posed the question twice, asked you nicely to stay on topic twice now, and I made it clear at the start what the proper response was to disputing the notion itself in my original post. If you aren't going to contribute to the real discussion then I am going to have to report you for derailing the thread.