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Tachikoma on 11 February 2013
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Mazty said:
Tachikoma said:
Mazty said:

Lolwut? 

A) The PS4 is very likely to have less power than the GTX680/HD7970. 
Aii)The GTX680 isn't even capable of solid 30 fps with improved graphics this gen. Expecting an improvement in graphics and 4k resolution is unrealistic.
B) Why will PSN games have 4k resolution when very, very few people will have 4k TV's?

A) Less power, but no overheads, so eventually once coders get used to the closed system, capable of producing better visuals - by which time a new range of PC gpu's will be available of course.

Aii) Actually the 7970 and GTX680 can do 4K quite well, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-zBuiq8RTU - http://www.brightsideofnews.com/Data/2012_6_18/The-4K-Graphics-Card-Shootout/4K%20Gaming%20Chart%2011.jpg

B) They most likely won't, and since the PS4 is rumored to only have a hdmi 1.4a output, the single output alone couldn't support it at anything over 24hz anyway (pretty much unplayable). It would need a HDMI 2.0 port to be able to output 4K at 60fps.

 

Also,

"Wrong. The top GPU in the market (GTX 680/HD 7970) can run game in 4k in max setthing."

AMD's HD7990 and Nvidia's GTX690 say hello.

True, although considering the GTX680 produces already x3 TFLOPS of the rumoured performance of Durango, optimisation can only get you so far. Don't get me wrong - I'd love the next consoles to kick out GTX680 performance (it'd save me a lot of money xD) but I'm not holding my breath.

I'm a bit of an elitist. Anything less than 30 fps min for an FPS imo isn't acceptable, plus that's only on high, not ultra, so it's safe to assume playing a top-line engine maxed out from this generation isn't even possible at 4k on single GPU cards. 

Yeah, that's a really good point about the HDMI port. I only imagine the PS4 as being a bluray/DVD/media upscaler rather than supporting 4k games. If publishers are backing out of Wii U support and it has a few million users, then I really can't see 4k games being released as the user base will be considerably smaller and that's pressuming the HDMI rumours aren't true...

Generally speaking the GTX680 hardware itself is easilly more powerful but as it has to run on a driver through an os, you can't as they say "code to the metal", since Microsoft refuse to allow low level hardware access through their operating system, with consoles you can, and with the GPU linked to the CPU directly with no interference the hardware itself ends up configuration to configuration, a lot more powerful than you'd expect - it's up to the supporting make-up such as ram, bandwidth, co-supporting hardware like that, and if the retail specs are the same as or similar to the rumored specs - eventually the 720 and ps4 will eclipse in both video quality and capability, the current generation of GPU - wether or not it'll outclass the GTX7xx or future cards released within the consoles lifetime, is up for debate but by the time developers have got the hang of these systems new gpus will be on the market, so both consoles and pcs will progress in graphical capability in tandem.

The youtube video would be a lot smoother if they didnt use fraps to record it with.

In the case of the video though the sheer resolution makes the GTX680 hit it's memory limit, it would run much better with more ram.