ToraTiger said:
baph7667 said:
ToraTiger said:
Well, there is a lot of things in this World that can't be explained. Like why do birds fly south for the winter? Why do these birds know to sit on their eggs? Why did man 'create' the very first religions? You see, we (Muslims) believe that God exists in all of us. (Even atheists) And that books like the Bible, Torah and others all contain some belief to God presences. In other words; Man has followed religion since the beginning of time, Romans, Egyptians, Chinese, all believe in a greater power. Where Christianity is concern, the Bible has been altered so many ways and so many times that it has lost some of it's divinity. See, this is the cause to all the "Atheists" that have been brought up in recent years. Though it shames me to say it, even Islam has been altered to some extend in certain places. Like the misrepresentation of Jihad. And if someone was to sit down, lose every bit of knowledge of Religion that society has thought them (I believe the alternation of Bible is the key to why so many disbelieve in God) And I'd bet that child would grow up believing in God.
No one seems to care about the "likeliness" of things that are contained in these books and are only concerned with the contradiction that exist, and why wouldn't some exist? It was created in a time where the live style and definition was COMPLETELY different. Not to mention things that could be lost in translation. So to make my point, read a 'clean' Bible, Quran, Torah or anything else, and find "your" definition of it. As I've said before that's why the worlds in it's current Religious state, people feel like Religion is just like their native governments trying to control their life. So instead of living by what you're parents or whoever told you, or what society has fed you, just pick up a book and decide what it means for yourself. As I see a lot of Atheist don't seem to have any sort of knowledge beside the very basics of Christianity. (Christ is God, father, son, holy ghost, he died for our sins ect. )
That said I'm not a Christian.
Lastly, someone just answer me this, if God doesn't exist and we humans are the closest things to it there are, they how come since the beginning of time there have been many ancients praying and yielding to something that doesn't exist ? |
The "likeness" is explainable by the fact that they're all just following the typical evolutionary pattern of the thinking patterns of human beings. That's why you see so many similarities between so many cultures. It's because evolution tends to follow similar paths.
As for why humans seem to have a spiritual need for religion, a man named Matthew Alper ( http://www.godpart.com/ ) explains that pretty well in his book "The God Part of the Brain". At some point in its evolution mankind hit upon a existential crises when it realized that it would have to die at some point, so to compensate for that terrifying thought over time humans came up with and hotwired their brains to believe in the fantasy of the afterlife.
For my part, I do think that this awareness of death and compensation for it may have even come about prior to human awareness and that's why you see things in the animal kingdom like cats entering a purring stage prior to death
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Firstly, thanks for correting my grammar. Secondly, there isn't SCIENCE that has actually proof of evolution. If we all evolved from apes, then how come we aren't super human-alien-primates by now? And if it does exist, then how or when will it know when to stop. We'd be evolving forever. And if It's our thinking pattern, and I don't think that the afterlife has anything to do with the existence of God. Only way evolution would work that way for EVERY single major culture that has existed is if something was "magical" pushing everyone to such beliefs. Food for thought.
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No it's not food for though as i doubt you put any into you rediculously false claim that there is no proof for the science of evolution. The VAST majority of the scientific community believe in the theory of evolution given the VAST amount of evidence proving this fact to be true. Most of the one's who dont are associated with a religion and are twisting fact's to suit theory's instead of theory's to suit fact's.
You say that if evolution were true why have we not evolved into human-alien-primates. My response is that you are simply making an argument from ignorance and you do not understand how evolution works. Species evolve as a result of mutations that are beneficila to survival. That's why most creatures on earth poses eyes becuase having eyes is a huge advantage so the one's that developed eye's survived while the one's without adapted or died. The idea that you can rank species evolution according to their intelligence is also absurd as it is not pre-determined that human's have such a great survivability compared to other species (given the state were in now i am seriously beginning to doubt our chances of surviving).
And human's intelligence along with our ability to use that intelligence to over come disabilities may indeed negatively affect evolution over time as physically weaker people may be able to spread thir genes (not saying they shouldnt of course).
And yes most culture's have formed some kind of magical explanation for why lightning occurs or why they exist. But this was a result of a lack of understanding about the world around us and god was the only answer we could come up with at the time. Since then we have greately advanced our understanding of the world around us and no longer need to use god as an explanation as their is no evidence for god. Some people still cling to religion as a result of upbringing, fear of death and societal pressure to conform but eventurally religion could leave us alltogether.
For the best i think
