If God doesnt exist then who wrote the bible ?

[ToraTiger]

Aielyn said:

ToraTiger said:
Well, there is a lot of things in this World that can't be explained. Like why do birds fly south for the winter? Why do these birds know to sit on their eggs? Why did man 'create' the very first religions?

All three of those can be explained quite easily.

Why do birds fly south for the winter? Depends on whether you mean the physiology or the purpose. If you mean the purpose, then it's pretty obvious - they've adapted to relatively warm, mild climates, and when the weather gets too hot or too cold, they move to more temperate areas. If you mean the physiology and mechanism, it's even on wikipedia.

Why do birds know to sit on their eggs? That would be the same thing that enables fish to know how to swim on birth, or that enables human babies to know how to breathe - it's part of the nervous system, part of instinct.

As for why man "created" the very first religions, that's also quite simple to explain. Man saw rain, and asked "why is water falling from the sky?" With no knowledge of evaporation and condensation, man came to the conclusion that some deity must have put it there. When man saw the sun move through the sky and asked why, man didn't understand that it was a massive ball of plasma burning due to nuclear fusion, or that the earth was a sphere that rotated through space, and came up with stories about how some deity moves it through the heavens, or other similar stories. When man discovered fire, man didn't go "heavy friction is causing increasing temperature, which is triggering combustion and thus resulting in fire", they concluded that it was a gift from some deity. Each phenomenon that they couldn't explain was given a theological explanation, because it's the best that they could do.

However, as humanity grew in understanding, it became less necessary to have a god to explain each phenomenon; as such, the number of gods reduced, and stories were adjusted to suit. Eventually, there was no need for multiple gods, because understanding things like friction was relatively easy, leaving only the most existential of questions. Thus the formation of monotheistic religions.

Science has superseded that, though. Great thinkers have realised that religion cannot solve the question of "why", because it just introduces new ones. God created the universe? So who created god? God has always existed? Why can't the universe have always existed? You get what I mean, of course. And so, in modern times, religion has broken into two groups.

The first group is the personal deity - those who believe that god is within them, helping them with their lives. While I disagree with those within this group, I fully respect their belief. The second group is the hyper-organised religion - where there's this idea that the job of believers is to force their beliefs on everyone else. And sadly, a few such religions have succeeded in certain places. Christianity has forced itself on quite a few nations. Islam has forced itself upon others. Judaism is pretty much forced on Israelis. There are no doubt others, too.

Anyway, even if none of the three things you mentioned had been explained, that would not be equivalent to saying that they could not be explained - that is, it's a huge leap from "we don't have an explanation" to "no explanation can exist". Because throughout history every mystery ever solved has turned out to be... not magic (thank you, Tim Minchin, for those words).

Food for thought.

You've anwsered the first two questions to an extent.  But let me first say, why didn't man just think of it as athesist do; the World existed by chance, and we are a product of it.  How come it's this newly found "science" that makes us doubt God? So what has possessed every single major society to yield to some unknown force.   And as for science being the "death" of Religion, there isn't any proof to a lot of that stuff, and if increases in heat makes fire, then why does it do that?  What makes the world spin and why?  Why does the Earth spin?  There is an never ending line of questions to most any topic.   Nothing in this World can truely be explained, so why doubt the thing that has found it's way into more hearts and minds than most everything.  

And I don't think any of these are forced.  Unless it's a crime to not believe in God, no one's making you do anything.   And it's the followers that do this, not their beliefs.  Murdering is not Islam, niether is "forcing it", all Muslims must find there own interputation of the Quran, as with the early Bibles and Torah.  It's this modern religion that already interputes it for us and also contributes to why people doubt God.  If everyone in the World became atheists, I guarentee man would begin to believe afterwards, having found it from somewhere as our ancestors did.

 As it's stated in these Books .    "God is without defect, however, his creations are not."  As it's stated that as fact pretty much that countries of wealth have a decrease in Religion.  The blessing is in the struggle and without struggle we  cannot rise above anything.

And BTW, no one has mentioned this but Imma put it there for perhaps future references.   Darwn, believe that the big bang caused the creation of earth and that chance caused us.  Man then evolve from apes into humans.   And all animals evolve....

If any of this is true, when does the "evolution" decide to stop, and how come we aren't super humans compared to our ancestors? And why aren't cats shooting lasers yet?

And I'm not gonna list all the things in the Quran that couldn't even be close to proved at that time.  Just look at "TheRightReligion.org" and look for the complete validation of Allah.  And if you don't believe this, the first Quran still exists, and it's papers have been prove athentic from about 700 AD.  The same century Muhammad died.