Why are we still fighting for equality in America. "Gay Marriage and Religion"

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Player1x3 said:

Not if the belief itself is to have faith. If this were a scientific or social matter I would understand that position. But it is a spiritual matter, and the only evidence you can gather on that are from your own personal experience.

That theory in no way suggests how the universe and all the matter came to be. Quantum mechanics are the result or cause of ''something''. Nothing by definition cant do ''nothing''. There isnt anything there to do anything. While it is true that from what we have seen so far matter and antimatter are created in self-cancelling amounts under fluctuation conditions, one must bear in mind that so far our observation of creating both is laughably small.

EDIT: This universe and rationality stuff is going off topic, so I'd be thankful if we would return to the original topic

Well, if you are only considering God spiritually (mind and not tangible) then there isn't anything to discuss as reality itself is subjective and each person's experience is unique in that regard. 

We have discovered the higgs boson at this point, so stating that matter and anti-matter are created in self-cancelling amounts is not accurate at all. They simply are not created in self-cancelling amounts, matter wins out which is why we exist at all.

Your concept that nothing can't do anything is quite unfounded. We have no real world examples of true nothingness, and I would conclude it is the exact opposite - it is boundless freedom, limitless, unheeded by laws, rules, space, restrictions.  

I don't know what the original topic is anymore, but if it's gay marriage and religion does it really need to be discussed? Surely no religious person can come in here and rationally argue against gay marriage.