dsgrue3 said:
Player1x3 said:
Is it irrational to believe that leprechauns or unicorns don't exist or the flying spaghetti monster? There is an abundance of evidence - open your eyes. Do you see a unicorn? Do you read about real life unicorns in the news? Do you see Unicorns at the zoo? Same is applicable to a God.
Becaue by definition, God would be in the news and in the zoos and it lives on our small insiginificant planet, right? Yeah thats a really nice comparison. If you're gonna resort to comparing a concept of higher power, something thats been recognized in logic, philisophy and orgin of universe as a likely existance to characters from stories from children, who can easly be disproved by using their own characteristics and background, then just tell me now so i can stop typing here. Also, please note I was referring to a deistic God/higher power, and not the one in the Bible and abrahamic religions
Agnostics don't believing in anything - they lack a belief entirely. Atheists don't necessarily deny the existence, merely disbelieve in it. For instance, an Atheist can be agnostic in regard to logic/philosophy and yet retain an atheistic belief.
Same can be said for a theist really.
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I would expect some evidence, no matter how insignificant. But there isn't any.
Wheres faith in that? Why would God ever show himself in the way atheists demand? Not only would that defeat the whole purpose of faith/Christianity, but it would completly change our species forever...and not in a good way im afriad
Stating that a higher power is a likely existence is completely inaccurate. Why do you state this as if it were true?
So you think that everything that came to exist today in our universe and our planet came origianlly from nothing and it was all an accident?? Let me tell you, THAT is highly unlikely, Do the math. Existance of a higher power (of any kind) is billion times more likely than that.
The point was that you falsely stated that atheists deny the existence of God - this is blatantly fallacious and slanderous to their viewpoint. (I agree, a theist can take an agnostic stance with logic/philosophy but I've never received experience with such a situation).
Atheism by definition, denies the belief in God, as in Athests dont thnik a God exists
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Well you said how he used real world examples to prove how stupid theists are...so why not use both sides of the story. He intentionally picked only the bad sides, when its obvious that the good side outweights the bad (today at least, it wasnt always the case)
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I never said stupid. Good outweighing bad doesn't make the bad go away and that is what he wanted to bring to your attention.
No, he wanted to point out to something that was completly irrelevant to my point.
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