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timmah on 08 February 2013
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Mazty said:
JayWood2010 said:
Mazty said:
JayWood2010 said:
Mazty said:
JayWood2010 said:
Mazty said:

From the Wii, yes, but not compared to the PS3 or 360, therefore it's 7th gen, no?

If you don't compare all existing consoles to one another in terms of hardware, then how can you classify consoles which are not successors e.g. Xbox, Playstation etc?

No, the wii's competion was the X360 and PS3.  Something that is explained in the OP.  WiiU's competion will be the PS4 and the NeXbox.  hence 8th generation.  what is so hard to understand about all this?

Making an unsubstantiated claim doesn't give it truth.

The Wii was marketed at a different audience than the PS3 and 360 because the games were a) completely different and b) no multiplatform titles.

You are now just saying that a Ferrari and Dodge Ram are gunning for the same audience because they are both motor vehicles.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/reggie-nintendo-not-good-at-core-games

So are you telling me the wii was not competition to the X360 and the PS3?  if so why did X360 adopt kinect and the PS3 move?

Market opportunity =/= competition. 

They both saw an opportunity to get into another market and did so. That doesn't mean the core consoles are competing for the same market. 

And games like Super Smash bros, Zelda, hell even Mad World was not aimed for gamers?  

Just make whatever useless comment you want to.  Im done and Im going to bed.  You are just throwing out useless nonsense now and to say that the wii wasnt competion is pointless.  Meanwhile Mario Kart Wii sells 30m and the wii out sells the X360 and PS3.  Gooooodnight for the final time

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/reggie-nintendo-not-good-at-core-games

Giving you quotes from Reggie hardly counts as "nonsense". However claiming things like the industry isn't split over the Wii U does count as nonsense:

http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/5044/20130202/electronic-arts-ceo-hints-wii-u-next-generation-has-seen-xbox-720-playstation-4-does-know-a-lot-about-valve-steambox.htm

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-wii-u-graphics-power-finally-revealed

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2013/01/team_ninja_wii_u_is_definitely_next_generation

The ford mondeo outsells Ferrari. Does Ferrari consider the Mondeo to be a challenger? xD

You have no idea how market terms are defined, so you just make up your own definition to suit your bias. Are they in the same model year (Gen)? The WiiU/PS4/Nextbox will all be on the same graph on the front of VGChartz, and will be compared side by side in sales by all gaming media when they're all on the market. They all have the same basic feature set (DX11 type), only the horsepower is different. By your comparison, is a 2013 Ford Focus not in the same model year as a 2013 Ford Mustang? (model year in cars would be the market equivalent of console gens)

Also, WiiU is much closer to its competition power-wise this gen than Wii was last gen (same DX11 type feature set, much smaller power differential). That would make the WiiU more part of this gen than the Wii was part of the 360/PS3 gen by your incorrect argument.

EDIT: Another point, graphics card manufacturers release new graphics card 'series' or 'gens' based on feature sets and architecture, but there are different power specs on cards within the same series/'gen'. Just because the lower end card of the new generation of cards is not much better (power-wise) than a mid-range card in the last gen does not mean it's in the same gen as the older card. There are multiple factors, including architecture and feature set as well as release date to take into account.