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Jay520 on 07 February 2013
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Fifaguy360 said:
pokoko said:
No, no, no. This makes my head hurt. It's a parade of strawmen where he makes up the arguments to suit his answers.

Short answer, and one often repeated: if he's saying the universe can't come from nothing, then he also has to admit that god cannot come from nothing, therefore his argument is meaningless. Sorry, but this is nothing but sophistry.


Not true.

If to create the world God A needed God B to create him and God B needed God C to create him so and so forth to infinitiy ... then the world logically could never be created. Since the world exists, it must mean God always existed.


Well time cannot exist for an eternity. If time stretched infinitely into the past, then an infinite amount of time would have to pass to reach the present. But of course it's impossible to cross an infinite amount of time to get to now.