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IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
Roma said:

Tom3k said:

And "creator" is exception right? He just is? So it's acceptable for "God" to be atheist? Since he "believes" according to religious claims that he wasn't created... 

If everything in exsistence needs a creator then "God" can't be excepted from that "rule"... If God can be excepted from that rule then other things in exsistence don't need a creator.

 

And as many times you repeat that creator is not a creation, it doesn't change the "logic" of sentences above. it only proves your selective application of so called logic, when and where it suits you.

the rules of the universe do not apply to God as he is outside of this universe

as I told you before he never did not exist to start existing he has always been there that is the only explanation to where the universe came from 

what is your explanation to where the universe came from?

 

How about the materials that our universe consist of has always existed yet didn't shape anything significant until after the big bang occured?

Why is it so unrealistic to imagine that such materials always have existed while a god that has existed forever makes perfect sense?

because rules are created by someone intelligent

everything has rules except the creator who is not bound by anything.

why can the universe create itself yet a castle in the desert can't?



    R.I.P Mr Iwata :'(