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IIIIITHE1IIIII on 07 February 2013
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Player1x3 said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Player1x3 said:

I don't think  i've ever seen a group of people so insecure of their beliefs as internet atheists are. I mean, they really need to create threads like these so they can sleep better at night. It's kinda understandable tho, Atheism is a pretty weak belief on itself. Once the airplane starts crashing all of that goes down the shitter.


I remember that old signature of yours. Its final line read, "Atheist until the plane starts falling."

 

That's hardly an argument supporting that atheism is a "weak belief". If anything, that specific line suggests that fear (in this case: fear of death) triggers religious thoughts. Ratinal thinking is not even in the equation.

Also: Atheism is not a belief. It is complete lack of religious beliefs. How is it "weak" to avoid drawing conclusions based beliefs, and instead rely on facts and theories?

The thing is, atheism and theism are both irrational, only rational stance is agnosticism. But the difference is once the strenght of Atheism is put to test (you're about to see if theres no afterlife) it crumbles completly. Which is why its such a weak belief. Its in human nature to hope for something afterwards, its just nature and psychology, rationality has little to do with it.

And tell me more about these facts that prove God doesnt exist. It takes just as much faith to believe higher power doesnt exist then to  believe it does. Maybe even more, but thats a different topic.


I agree that agnosticism is a rational stance. We (as in: no one in the entire world) can say that they know how the world was created. Agnostic people are open to all possibilities.

Atheism is also rational. The difference though is that they say, "We don't believe in any religion. They are all unsupported by science and make many baseless assumptions." while the agnostic people say, "Any religion might as well be right. We just don't know which, if any." Atheists know that they might as well be wrong in the end of time when God send them to hell, but they don't believe that they are since there is no reason to do so. Atheists also acknowledge the fact that they are equally likely to be send to another dimension created by fairies after death; another possibility that agnostics will not rule out.

Atheists believe in reason, agnostics will not make a stance and theists believe in unreasonable supernatural beings.

 

"And tell me more about these facts that prove God doesnt exist. It takes just as much faith to believe higher power doesnt exist then to  believe it does."


We cannot prove that a god doesn't exist. But we can prove that God, as he is described in the Bible, doesn't exist. Because the Bible gives him attributes that makes him easy to disprove. I have a video touching on this subject, if you'd care to see it in action.

Furthermore, are you implying that it takes just as much faith to believe that fairies don't exist as it takes to not believe in them? What are the facts that proves that fairies don't exist?