Why are we still fighting for equality in America. "Gay Marriage and Religion"

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Roma said:

well the evidence is in my text which is the creation of the universe

there is a difference between human made fantasy and the the existence of a creator. there are also human made Gods should I believe in them because they call them Gods? of course not!

Good example with the baby so what makes you believe that God does not exist because you haven't seen him?

Your evidence is a book. Okay...got it. Finally you admit to having no evidence.

I agree, big difference. You seem to be arguing for the former more than the latter. But, even arguing for a Creator - I have shown that causality only applies within the Universe - meaning a Creator is not necessary (or, we cannot logically conclude one is necessary).

The baby I was trying to describe why causality doesn't apply outside/before the universe, but it proved to be a bad example. I just want you to take note that certain things that exist in the room with the baby may or may not exist outside the room. Vice versa works as well, but doesn't really fit the point I was trying to make.

I have no evidence that would lead me to believe in a Creator, that's the only reason. Without evidence, I will not believe in something. I'm not saying it can't be true, just that I do not believe it is true - same with ghosts.