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Roma said:
dsgrue3 said:

1&2) Since they are the exact same thing divided into 2 posts for some nonsensical reason. You have defined causality - a principle that is only applicable within our Universe. Note: within. Not outside, not prior.

3) Evidence? Zilch.

4) Evidence? Zilch.

I see nothing rational about your thought process. Try again please using evidence.

you believe in unproven human theories yet you do not understand belive in simple logic?

if you don't use rational thinking you can't understand rational explanations either so no matter what I say you won't understand

Huh? I don't believe in anything that isn't proven or has an abundance of evidence for it.

If you don't understand something, let me know, don't simply say "oh you're irrational".

I'm not being remotely irrational. I said the principle you identified - causality is something that only exists within the constraints of our Universe, not before it - not outside it (if outside exists). 

Again, no evidence for 3 or 4. You are being irrational. Not me.