Should we Ban Guns?

[HesAPooka]

Kasz216 said:

HesAPooka said:

brendude13 said:

Kasz216 said:

brendude13 said:

Those statistics don't seem right at all. Austria, New Zealand and Canada are considered some of the safest countries on the planet.

Don't know what to tell you... outside the fact that they are the only numbers you can find and are widely cited... over a number of years

Assuming you meant Australia instead of Austria.... and Australia is notorious for how easy it is to get into a bar fight.

 

Here's another one... with the UK sadly moving up the list.  Canada moving down.  Australia and New Zealand are off this one.  Though the US isn't on there either.

 

No, I meant Austria, it's highest on the first chart you posted. I don't know what to say about this one either. Sweden in 4th!?

Maybe it's something to do with the country's definition of a violent crime, or how it is reported?

Sweden and other nordic countries have high instances of rape, but the issue here is gun related homicides. Not bar fights etc.iolent crime rates in general are in fact applicable... far more then gun homicides.

Violent crime rates are far more applicable then gun related homicides.

Afterall, gun related homicide vs non-gun related homicide?  What's the point int splitting them up?  You can't kill somone with a gun you'll kill them another way.

 

However, a supressing effect guns have on other violent crimes?   Pretty applicable i'd say.

Glad you said that cause US ranks higher in homicides amongs devloped countires, AND gun related homicides :). So clearly guns aren't stopping homicides in the states. SInce it ranks highest in both gun related and non gun related homicides per capita amongst delevloped countries. Sure other countries rank high in rape or other violent form of crimes, but that's a whole other issue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#By_country

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

Either way I'm done replying. No offense to you or anything, but I added my two cents. I wan't looking to argue or anything (not implying you are). Pretty clear stats on the homicide rates with and without guns for US. If you want to keep your guns than keep your guns, but don't come up with bugus stats to make excuses to do so. I'd rather hear hey I want to keep my gun because the risks don't outweight the benefits for me, and sure more people will die, but I like the freedom of having my gun. Just don't try to hide behind backwards stats or start twisting the issue.