Should we Ban Guns?

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Michael-5 said:

B) How many people could you kill with a Mass Shoveling? LOL. A gun is just too easy of a mean to kill people, a Knife requires effort, and some physique. So yes, I agree you need to work on a lot of issues in the USA, Education, Mental Health, Resprct, and Tolerance, but that's going to take a long time to fix....Why not make it much harder to get guns until then?

D) I love your math . All it says in the bottom is Crime Statistics are more reliable then Victim ones, but you know what?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics

Boom, I wikipedia'd your ass and USA has a higher Rape rate then Canada by 15X (USA is 27.7 per 100,000, Canada is 1.7)

Also, lets gun some gun statistics because like I said killing in self defence, or my accident (e.g. Young children shooting themselves) are not included in Homicide rates.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

Per 100,000

USA has 10.2 Gun related Deaths, 3.6 Gun Related Homicides, 6.3 Gun Related Suicides, and 0.3 Unintentional/Undertermined Deaths
Can has 2.13 Gun related Deaths, 0.5 Gun Related Homicodes, 1.8 Gun Related Suicides, and 0.4 Unintentional/Undetermined Deaths.

So your 7X more likely to be shot, and you'll see about 3X as many suicides with guns.

You also showed me that USA has more assaults per Capita.

So yes, USA is more violent.

D-II) Canada doesn't have many illegal immigrants. Cubas don't travel thousands of kilometers to attempt to enter Canada when USA is there. Think a bit when I make a hyperbole example.

As about my point about banning handguns, that's not an arguement, it's a question. LOL Why not just ban handguns if Americans are so pro gun, and it's so important to have guns.

You're funny.

B) Nice strawman argument. Read about Japan mass stabbing and get a clue:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=80964&page=1

D) What math? It says it isn't as reliable, so you use the actual crime statistics that aren't open to interpretation like this source that I've already posted:

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap-crime-rapes

And not a wikipedia entry that says this:

This list[5] indicates the number of, and per capita cases of recorded rape. It does not include cases of rape which go unreported, or which are not recorded.[6] Nor does it specify whether recorded means reported, brought to trial, or convicted. Nor does it take the different definition of rape around the world into account.

Assault was basically a wash - 786 vs. 737, in other words, not statistically significant. 

Simply listing gun crime is meaningless to the discussion. Obviously gun crime is higher in the US. Did you have a point?

D-II) Yeah, kid, that's exactly what I said. They don't travel to Canada because it's an additional thousand miles.

E) Why would we ban hand guns? You ask questions without making an argument? Weird. Well, if you aren't arguing anything, no need to respond.