Should we Ban Guns?

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Michael-5 said:

Kasz216 said:

 

Again you are just making shit up.  Taser's are nowhere near as effective as guns because it can actually be pretty hard to hit somebody with both darts... and even if you do hit them, if they're big enough or have drugs in them it might not bother them that much.

http://forums.officer.com/t34616/

Gives a few examples of taser issues.

Heck, a few layers of clothing can defeat a taser.

I said Taser, not Taser gun. Maybe in USA they aren't ass effective with rampant obesity, lol, but a Taser will easily knock someone under 300lb out.

OMG Cocaine.....LOL, you're funny.

Mace works effectively on all weight's, and yes they are very effective for self defence. I mean people use Bear Spray (strong Pepper Spray) to stop Bears. If it can stop a bear, it can stop a person.

Just as effective, and involve no killing. Gee, what a terrible solution, I'm such a big anti-gun nut that I just can't see the advantages of guns..


I just don't understand you pro gun Americans. Everytime I talk to people in Canada, be it a cop, or another person, no one would even even consider a gun for self defence here. We understand guns are dangerous, but you...just always have an excuse. You don't need guns, who cares if you have a right to bear arms, you don't need it. It's not like Alcohol, it helps no one.

no it doesn't.  I have been in bar fights where mace/pepper spray was sprayed inside the fight inside the bar. it stopped no one(police/army strength may be stronger, but as a civillian we cant use those for defense either so it doesn't matter). Tasers are only usefull once someone is with in arms reach, wich is close enough to grab a arm that holds a taser and render it useless.

 

Edit: I'll also add that anyone who wants to ban guns please take a walk through downtown la, or compton, or any gang infested block at night and tell me what you think when you are done. the United States has a gang violence problem, not a gun problem. The gangs get their guns from illegal sources in the US or when they buy their drugs from the mexicans. Banning guns will not impede their ability to purchase them in any way as the guns they buy are illegal, come from illegal sources, and come from a country we have no juridstiction in. So until there is a closed border with no drug/people/weapon smuggling any leglislation is useless. Thses weapons will be bought from people drugs dealer instead of a gun shop or show. On top of closing the border we would have to remove the need for gangs to exist, which is drugs. With out the drugs there would be no reason for gangs, with no gangs there would be less violence and less deaths (as most gun deaths occur in cities with gangs). so if your really anti violence and really want to savbe lives you should be pushing for better drug laws, and for closing and securing the border. But I dont see many polititions who are anti gun being pro closing border so nothing will change.