Should we Ban Guns?

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Michael-5 said:

I agree about drugs.

Stronger regulations helps prevent people from obtained guns which were originally obtained legally. I'm not sure how hard it is to get a second gun after the first one was stollen, but it should be impossible. Same with families who have a member in the family which doesn't pass a psych test, and same with people who don't need it. Like I said, in Canada I can't get a gun because I'm from a middle class family, and I rarely go to ghetto area's in town.

As for your last point, I agree, but it makes it harder. As an example Marijuanna seeds are legal to buy and sell in Canada.....how f***ed is that? Anyone who wants to grow and sell weed, only needs a trip to the store and a few months of grow time. Ban Marijuanna seeds, and over time, through several drug op busts, weed will be harder to find/grow. I know USA does gun busts, if say handguns were full out illegal, it would be much easier for police to seize pistols.


However I agree, there are many issues which first must be solved before a gun ban. I didn't realize how different the USA is then Canada. I've read about high poverty rates, especially in the south, but I didn't realize you guys had such an incometent/untrustworthy police force, among other factors.

You need to realize that the US is 10 times bigger than Canda.  We have single states with your population.

And you're still looking at illegally obtained guns as having been first purchased legally.    That's not usally the case with the average gun involved crime.

Did you know that the FBI claims that there are 400 million legally owned guns in the US?   Now imagine 2 things.  First, that most gun involved crimes is perpetrated with an illegal gun that was never legally owned by someone else in the first place.   That means the number of illegal guns is also a very huge number.  Second, it would be a logistical impossibility to round up what could be 1 billion firearms.

 

I can tell that your mind is completely set and that you never intended to have a discussion where data could persuade your reasoning.  However, I don't blame you for that either.   This is merely a matter of you growing up under a system and circumstance that is different to the point that differing opinions seem not just alien but irrational.  However, you can't create a thread with a heavy bias and not expect to vehemently confronted by that very circumstance you fail to understand.