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Kain_Kusanagi said: "Back in the 80's the generational leaps were all 2D and difficult for many to tell the difference."

Odd, I have no trouble whatsoever telling the difference.

I agree what you said about the PC Engine delivering results, but I don't agree whatsoever with graphical output defining a generation leap, or having to be successor to an existing console. That simplifies things far too much, I think. It's about that too sure, but it's also about the timing, what new it brings to the table, and a factor of many other things.

I am not a fan of the Ouya, or Smartphones, Tablets whatever. I do believe they're the start of things to come though and therefore earn a spot in the generation of gaming, whether they are in direct competition to the big platforms is completely irrelevant.