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Michael-5 said:
Marks said:
How long will it take before anti-gun people realize banning guns doesn't stop crime?

Fact 1: Cities like Chicago and New York are among the highest in the country in both gun control and gun crime. Gun control has failed to stop crime in these cities.

Fact 2: Law abiding citizens with guns stop/prevent crime, all police can do is come clean up the crime-scene...unless they happen to be in the right place at the right time to stop a criminal.

Fact 3: Guns are an equalizer. It doesn't matter if you're a 90 pound female or a big bastard that can bench 225...you're equal if you both have a gun. This means that women can protect themselves from rape/sexual assault, and a weaker man has a chance against a bigger man, or group/gang.

Fact 4: Law abiding citizens aren't trigger happy. Usually just showing that you have a gun is more than enough to deter a criminal. RARELY do citizens actually have to fire the gun to scare off a criminal.

Fact 5: We have the right to bear arms...the forefathers put no limitations on this. It doesn't specify guns for hunting or for target shooting...it just says right to bear arms.


I do agree that more training and perhaps background checks are needed, but I think all sane/non-criminal citizens should have the right to own as many guns as they like. Switzerland is an example of how a country can be perfectly safe even with high gun ownership...since men all serve in the army at some point and are well familiarized with guns and know how to use/operate them safely.



3. Statistically, Mace and Taser's work just as effectively, and are non-lethal. I think that's a big fact most people skip over about guns.

P.S. I know USA's homicide rate is already pretty high, but what's the death rate caused by guns all together? Self Defence isn't homicide, but it does result in death if you protect yourself with a gun. I wonder, how much would this add the the fatality rate in the USA.




Again you are just making shit up.  Taser's are nowhere near as effective as guns because it can actually be pretty hard to hit somebody with both darts... and even if you do hit them, if they're big enough or have drugs in them it might not bother them that much.

http://forums.officer.com/t34616/

Gives a few examples of taser issues.

Heck, a few layers of clothing can defeat a taser.