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ninjablade said:

HD 3850 = 320:16:16 (more 8 ROPs than Wii U GPU).

 i'm only followong the sp count, is this bad news for wiii u? 

Very bad. HD3850 has 53 GB/sec memory bandwidth. Chop off half the ROPs and drop memory bandwidth to 12.8GB/sec, the GPU is hopeless for next generation games. Even if it's 50% faster than Xbox 360's GPU, that won't even make a dent for next gen games. However, since people enjoyed Nintendo's 1st party games on the N64, Gamecube, Wii, it's not the graphics that interests them, but gameplay. The gap in visuals between Wii U and PS4 should be a full generation. 

Xbox360 vs. PC in Crysis 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a3eilZRlyk

Even if Wii U is 50% more powerful than Xbox 360, that's not even going to reach the level of graphics of Crysis 3 on the PC, not talking about 2017-2019 games.