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kain_kusanagi said:
Mazty said:

So then a successor is determined just by the name? If you ignore the hardware then how are you determining what is a successor? How is the 360 elite not the 360's successor if you are ignoring hardware? 

Anything that is a successor would be next gen because it is by definition following it's predecessor's generation.

Take the Ouya for example. It is a new system being released during the 8th generation of home consoles. But the Ouya is not significantly more powerful than the PS360 nor is it a follow up to a 7th gen machine. It is not a next gen game machine. However, if Ouya sticks around for the next 5-10 years and recieves a follow up for the 9th gen then the Ouya 2 would be next gen and part of (8th gen). The original Xbox didn't follow anything, but it was significatly more powerfull than the Saturn, PSX, and N64 so it was a 6th gen machine.

Anything from MS, Sony, and Nintendo is by default an 8th gen. It has nothing to do with its name. The Xbox 360 Elite was not a follow up it was a revision just like the PS3 Slim and Ugly Slim and the Xbox 360 S. To be a follow up it has to be a completely new machine, but it doesn't have to be 10X more powerful either.

You are still using arbitray rules though. You are saying that if an established company releases a new console, it is automatically next-gen regardless of specs, but for a new company it has to be significantly more powerful than the best of the last gen. That logically doesn't follow.