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Ronster316 said:
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This comes from the same company that bought itself into the industry from scratch, and spends by far the most on advertising?


That sounds EXACTLY like sony from 1994-2000.

You know........... that same cotporation that only had one decent 1st party exclusive during that 6 year period (Gran Turismo).

 

 

No no my dear friend, you got it all mixed up The Sony I know created probably the best 1st party games in the history of gaming, during that timeframe

They did? are you sure? 

Which games are you referring to?

Crash Bandicoot? (i'm sure that Naughty Dog had not been acquired by then)

The original playstations success was all down to 3rd parties, NEVER ENDING advertising & moneyhatting......... 

Tekken.

Metal Gear Solid.

Resident Evil etc.

oh, you must mean Syphon Filter right?


At first I actually wanted to take you seriously and start a conversation... but then I realized that you are still grumpy because your favorite gaming company went under like 12 years ago, and mine still exists.

If you cant think of any other games to list, you are obviously not a real gamer my frien. What are you even doing on this forum? Diddnt you hear, Crazy Taxi just released on the DC


I always get the same response when i ask that question. (because the bottom line is that it was 3RD PARTIES that paved the way for sonys success back then)

Thats what i'm saying, the sony brigade bash microsoft for lack of 3rd party games, but they were in the same situation themselves back then, talk about double standards.

Sony was never in the same situation for lack of 3rd party games.. whatever that means

and what Sony fan bashes MS for lack of 3rd party games?

 

somebody just doesn't know what the hell they are talking about ;)

 

you're trying too hard..

I'm referring to sonys lack of 1ST party games back then, hence it was 3RD party games & moneyhatting that led to their success.

you originally pretty much said that Sony only had 1 decent 1st party game from 94 to 2000 SMFH!

 

what could a clueless individual mean by that? you are either talking about the reviews or the sales

 

Sony's 1st party games got good scores back then so you can't mean that

 

so you are probably talking about sales

 

now let me explain why some people on the outside don't like and don't see TEH CHARTZ as a credible place for sales

 

look at Ape Escape 2(ps2) on here. The game sold over 6 million copies but how many units does vgchartz have it at? MGS2 sold more than what vgchartz has it at also but i can't remember the exact number it sold(i believe 7 mill)

 

now on ps1, do you remember Sony games like Parappa the Rapper? Ape Escape? MediEvil? Jet Moto? Hot Shots Golf? etc

 

for example... games like Parappa the Rapper and the 1st Ape Escape BOTH sold over 3 million copies but vgchartz doesn't have these games tracked at the right ltd they sold. only a few games do on here. There are even some games that are COMPLETELY missing from the ps1 library on here

 

The Chartz had some of these games right at 1 point but they did some kind of update to the system i guess and some games aren't fully tracked anymore

 

Now M$ is in their 2nd generation about to go on to their 3rd so they pretty much have no excuses for not having many ips anymore

 

how are you going to compare a 1st gen Sony to a 2nd gen Microsoft? Sony had a good amount of 1st party titles THAT SOLD AND REVIEWED WELL between 94-2000. Sony came with even more 1st party franchises during their 2nd time around. M$ in their 2nd time around going on their 3rd STILL don't have many ips

 

so i don't know where you THOUGHT you were trying to go with that 1

 

but whatever though..

And Microsofts studios have GROWN from original xbox to where we are now.

What? even second time around sony didn't have that many first party games (the line up had grown stronger since the ps1 days with games like God of War sure)

Going back to ps1's exclusives........... they were for the most part crap or 2nd party developed games. (those games you mentioned? come on man, were you even able to keep a straight face whilst typing that?)

Why should MGS2's sales matter to you? it's a 3RD PARTY game.


the "studios" have grown recently due to all those buyouts M$ did but the "1st party ip's" didn't really gain too much ground

 

they didn't have that many ips the 2nd time around? really, Ronster? REALLY? and of course you only name god of war because it's probably the only ip of that generation from Sony that you know

 

those games were not crap ESPECIALLY for the time they released. and of course you are now trying to write off Sony's other ips that SOLD AND REVIEWED well lol ..typical

 

because MGS2 ps2 is another example of a game that isn't fully tracked here