PS4 to launch in JP and US in 2013, and in EU 2014? More powerful than x3ox and with small touchscreen in new controller?

[DanneSandin]

Gamerace said:

DanneSandin said:

Gamerace said:

DanneSandin said:

Gamerace said:
This is all well and good and I look forward to their reveal but what is Sony's recent obsession with power? PS1 & 2 were not the most powerful but they did amazingly well. PS3/Vita were and look where that got them. Last place and huge losses. Gaming history has shown the most powerful system has never ever won any generation either handheld or home and usually leads to big losses (Xbox, PS3). Sony is not even in a position to be playing this type of game anymore.
If they allow MS to undercut them on price with similar specs they'll have lost another generation. Why Sony? Why?

Well, a lot of the costs last time around were for the Blu-ray... And what else can they do? They can't have similar specs as Nintendo, because then they'd both get the same 3rd party support and Sony would get destroyed by Nintendos 1st party games... They need to compete with MS, as MS need to compete with Sony; they can't face off Nintendo on equal terms

PS3 is already facing off (and winning) against WiiU.    PS4 must counter 720 - and upstarts like Ouya/SteamBox.  But more power isn't the answer, better value is or some strong hook like Wii and Kinect had or at least getting out first.     Their new controller looks promising but after WiiU's launch (and Ouya) will just be new accepted form.  Doubtless MS new controller will also have some touchpad or such (be surprised if it doesn't).  

It looks like MS will out-innovate, out price and be to market first (europe).  None of that bodes well for PS4.

Well, PS2 were beating both of the 360 and PS3 (and possibly Wii?) in the beginning, and that didn't really matter anything for the out come of the gen... But I agree that value is what sell systems; Wii had great value, and Kinect had it as well, and it remains to see which console will have the greatest value this coming gen...

But yeah, I have a feeling that MS might take home this gen...

True and getting off topic here - I fear Nintendo has massively miscalculated  with WiiU.   They got away with the underpowered DS and Wii because they brought other new innovations to gameplay - more than mere power increase alone could bring.   The gamepad fails in this respect, leaving WiiU as nothing more than an HDWii without Wii's appeal (no motion controls in most games) and no games.   It will dwindle and die out with 360 and PS3, kept on life-support by periodic Nintendo classics.

I agree with most of what you said, but not everything....