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Immortal said:
dsgrue3 said:

I didn't say your example was a fact.

My example is from multiple studies. They show that although males and females have the same average IQ, the distribution is quite different. Women cluster around the middle, men cluster around the extremes (high and low). You could also say there are more stupid males than stupid females.

I never bring personal assumptions into logical debates - that's stupid.


You say you don't. And you probably don't think you do either. But can you really be sure? I mean, suppose (again, humour me) an alternate reality where you did bring in biases into logical debates. Considering it would be entirely subconscious, would you really know? Do you really know right now?

Anyway, I more or less covered your response in my other post, didn't I? You have your studies, anyone with five minutes and Google could find an equal number of studies that disagree. (And this goes for any topic, really.) Sure, you'll point out the inaccuracies with opposing studies, show how they're biased, not well undertaken, have dubious methodologies, etc. But again, the other person will point out some minor inconsistencies with your studies. At this point, even if you're still convinced that you're more likely to be right, given that you have opposition and some objections to your studies, surely you can't say with absolute certainty that the number of smart males exceeds the number of smart females? And if there's even a degree of uncertainty, you really can't pass something off as a fact, can you?


I think this argument is a good example of why racism is wrong.

Regardless of the facts, racism and sexism is wrong because it invokes the feeling of being treated unfairly. This negative feeling is often felt when others are treated unfairly or when oneself is being treated unfairly. These co-called facts of life are irrelevant.